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Old 10-23-2009, 07:31 PM   #1
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Even tho I'm winterizing, I'm thinking ahead to next season (optimistic, eh) I want to understand the 'working guts' of Greyt Escape so...I was wondering
how/when water gets into hot water tank.
Does it only fill when the hot faucet is open? Does it get filled from the hose at home when I fill the fresh tank?
How do I insure it doesn't become empty and damaged when the hot water heater's on and we're using lots of hot water?

As for winterizing...I can't see where to attach the adaptor to get pink antfreeze into the water pump, as seen on Tammy's video (which I've watched waaay too many times.
Is it really safe to dump that pink stuff right into the fresh water tank and just pump from there? That sure would be easier.
Any suggestions from wiser folk is greatly appreciated. Although I'm not here often, people have been very helpful and friendly here when I do show up
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Old 10-23-2009, 07:55 PM   #2
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Re: Water puzzles

Hi Deb

What you need is a winterize valve like this
http://www.go-rv.com/coast/do/catalo...62&pageNum=-51
Its the water system siphon kit.

It is easy to install, when you want to winterize you turn the valve to the fresh water
off position and that opens it up to the intake hose you stick in the jug of anti freeze
start the pump and let everything run until the water turns pink.

The anti freeze that runs down the sinks & shower will help protect the traps.
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:32 PM   #3
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Re: Water puzzles

Easy for YOU to install
Thanks for the info, but after nosing around under the seat where utilities are, I still couldn't tell where to attach a bypass.
Geesh. I'd like to avoid antifeeeze in my fresh tank if possible.
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:56 PM   #4
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Hi: deb h... My local RV. Tech charges $50. to winterize. He will even do it in my driveway. He uses an air compressor to keep the anti freeze going where it should...not in the fresh w. tank or the w. heater. In the spring when you rince out the lines etc. fill the fresh w. tank and drain 2X then fill and open the bypass valve and turn on the hot w. tap. When the gurgling stops the w.heater should be full...that is if the drain plug/anode rod is tightened in!!! Alf p.s. I think it's well worth the $$$$'s
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:49 PM   #5
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Hi Deb, the KEY thing is, whether you winterize from the fresh water tank, or use the connector to the water pump, THAT YOU BYPASS THE WATER HEATER AND THEN DRAIN IT DRY BY REMOVING THE ANODE PLUG! And I think Tammy's video illustrates that very well. Flushing the antifreeze out of your fresh water tank is not a big deal in the spring, so I wouldn't be concerned about that. To me, that's the easiest way, but everyone's different. Just be sure you bypass the water heater. Of course, using Alf's method, you shouldn't have to worry about it at all. Just the two meals you and your's could have had out somewhere on that $50 : - )
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Re: Water puzzles

I'm planning on winterizing tomorrow. I'm paying close attention to this thread. But, my plan is to drain the hot water tank by taking out the anode, open the drain for the fresh water and then blow out the water lines with my new compressor and the adapters I picked up at ACE hardware in Oregon. I have to justify the purchase somehow. I'll spread a gallon or two of RV anti-freeze to the sinks and shower traps and black tank.

And, then, I'll probably keep my oil-filled heater going whenever the temps drop enough to raise my concern. It's what I did last year, but then we live in North Vancouver, not Prince George, and last year I didn't have the compressor to blow out the water lines.

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Once you blow them out, make sure to refill them with antifreeze.
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Hi: HokieEscape...Dan...We still have to use the $50. gift cards from last Christmas for the Keg Steakhouse. A couple of softball sized rare steaks with garlic mashed potatos coming up!!! Oh and 2 Keg sized 3oz. Margaritas...Are we there yet Alf
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Once you blow them out, make sure to refill them with antifreeze.
The whole point of the exercise is not to use anti-freeze in the lines. You fire air through them until no more water vapor appears at the taps. From what I've read, it may be easier to use anti-freeze to winterize, but then you have a lot more to do in the spring to remove it.

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Re: Water puzzles

As I understood the video, all you need to do is drain the holding tanks and the water heater. Antifreeze is presented as an alternative.

But obviously that ignores P-traps in the sinks and toilet. P-traps must be blown out or have antifreeze. Is there a P-trap in the toilet, by the way?

Where will I find RV antifreeze? I can't see it as necessary for waste tanks and lines. Shouldn't windshield fluid serve? Or dilute methyl hydrate (methyl alcohol)?
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