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Old 04-30-2016, 03:54 PM   #1
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Question Weird Electrical Issue

Escape 13 2012/2013 edition;
Camping season 1st use this weekend.
My wife is using the trailer for a personal escape to a Quilting weekend.
I charged the Batteries on AC all last week. (Solar Panel Charging system as well). Thursday night everything OK. Friday night the only light she can use is the one over the small table at the front of the trailer. All other lights do not work. Fridge works, did not check the furnace. At 3 am the furnace kicks in. When the furnace burner shuts off, (Audible Click) All the lights that she had left on, and were not working comes on.
Any Suggestions
I know this is difficult to diagnose without being there with a multi-meter and the problem existing, but I need some direction as to where to start.
Thanks all for you input.
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Old 04-30-2016, 04:03 PM   #2
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Escape 13 2012/2013 edition;
Camping season 1st use this weekend.
My wife is using the trailer for a personal escape to a Quilting weekend.
I charged the Batteries on AC all last week. (Solar Panel Charging system as well). Thursday night everything OK. Friday night the only light she can use is the one over the small table at the front of the trailer. All other lights do not work. Fridge works, did not check the furnace. At 3 am the furnace kicks in. When the furnace burner shuts off, (Audible Click) All the lights that she had left on, and were not working comes on.
Any Suggestions
I know this is difficult to diagnose without being there with a multi-meter and the problem existing, but I need some direction as to where to start.
Thanks all for you input.
Greg.
Hi: comsult... Bad ground to the frame? Could be rusty. When plugged into shore power your trailer power cord is grounded. As for the magic lamps... only Aladdin knows for sure. Just my theory... FWIW. Alf
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Old 04-30-2016, 04:26 PM   #3
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Hi: comsult... Bad ground to the frame? Could be rusty. When plugged into shore power your trailer power cord is grounded. As for the magic lamps... only Aladdin knows for sure. Just my theory... FWIW. Alf
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Good Thought, easy to check and resolve.
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Old 04-30-2016, 05:03 PM   #4
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Hi: comsult... Bad ground to the frame? Could be rusty. When plugged into shore power your trailer power cord is grounded. As for the magic lamps... only Aladdin knows for sure. Just my theory... FWIW. Alf
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I don't believe Escape uses the frame as a 12V current carrying conductor, so I'd suspect a lose ground either at the converter or the battery. The high current the furnace draws might have arced the bad connection enough to cause the lights to start working. If so, it will probably come loose again, so it should be looked for & tightened.

Of course, it could be something else - remote diagnosis is tough!
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Old 04-30-2016, 06:05 PM   #5
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In the famous words of my brother in law who was genius when it came to diagnosing problems, "Them grounds can mess you up." Grounding (loose wire) or corrosion would be my guess too.
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Old 04-30-2016, 07:14 PM   #6
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I don't believe Escape uses the frame as a 12V current carrying conductor...
Not normally, perhaps, but at least one owner reported that this is indeed wired that way in a 2014 19':
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My negative ground was screwed to the frame. 18" away the converter ground was screwed to the frame.
I don't have a problem with using the frame as part of the negative side of the electrical system - that's normal practice in cars and trucks - but the cable connections to the frame need to be done carefully. I don't think any Escape frame connection is done the way it is in a modern car.

Of course, the mysterious problem may have nothing to do with ground connections.
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Old 04-30-2016, 09:47 PM   #7
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Yes, even the brakes have separate ground connections. My moneys on a poor ground.

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The connections to the battery post are rotten . Mine where rusted almost right off at the positive post(s) ( mild steel ) ?. Changed them for copper .
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The Trailer is coming home tomorrow night. Will check all grounds, including between the batteries and battery ground next week. Will update this post with anything I find.
Seems to be a consensus that a ground is the problem.
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Old 05-01-2016, 08:08 AM   #10
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I'd have to say that "you have been grounded to a halt" in this case......
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