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Old 09-07-2015, 11:18 AM   #11
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Having never been in this sort of situation (knock wood!), I don't honesty know.

First off, I know I would not have been doing anything on a cell phone (we have dumb phones), but probably would have been reading a book while waiting for food to arrive, if hubby wasn't with me.

Two, if it was noisy, I would have had problems understanding him since I have massive problems understanding what someone says in a noisy environment (nothing to do with age or too many rock concerts back in the day; the filter in my brain for that is defective), so I would have kept saying "what?", which would have pissed him off further or he would have left.

Third, if I understood him and I was waiting for my food, chances are my blood sugar levels would have been low and I would have started ragging on him, which could have made the situation worse. Low blood sugar levels equal quick to anger and loss of patience.

Fourth, I would have discussed the matter with the manager. I don't care if he's the town drunk, that waitress should have done something, if only to call the manager over to take care of the guy. And to give you a free drink for your troubles from someone that's well known to act that way.

Fifth, never go in there again.

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Old 09-07-2015, 11:30 AM   #12
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He's lucky you handled it the way you did. Because Alaska's a concealed carry state, it could have ended badly for him if he'd made those threats to someone else.


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Any chance he was angling for a "shut up and have a drink on me" response?
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Old 09-07-2015, 12:33 PM   #14
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Old 09-07-2015, 04:44 PM   #15
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Thank you for everyone's comments. I have calmed down a bit now and am able to analyze a few things. Here are my reflections:

Don't sit alone
When I entered that sports bar .... a nice place and not a seedy dive ... it was about 8:00 pm and due to dinner rush, all tables were full except one in the very back corner. I took that table and ordered a meal and a beer. The beer came but before the meal arrived a few other tables opened up. In hindsight, I should have moved over to a table near other people. I suspect that sitting alone made me appear as an easy target to someone like this guy who was obviously spoiling for a fight.

Be aware of your surroundings
I wasn't. I don't normally think about or worry about who is around me as I'm not one who finds trouble. I did not see this fellow enter the bar OR even notice him approach my table. I didn't know anyone in the whole place so instead of looking around with a really bored stupid look on my face, I was entertaining my self with my cell phone .... ie not paying attention. Maybe this made me appear vulnerable to him.

Be armed
I don't mean to suggest carrying a gun.... I have never been trained in the use of firearms and I doubt that at my age I could be effectively. I am thinking about having a container of Mace on my key ring .... might buy enough time to get away. Mace or bear spray is problematic for Americans crossing the Canadian border .... we can't take such products across the border.

I brought this up here because last night I needed to vent and even though I don't know many of you, it feels like I'm among friends. I also realize that I need to work on my "street smarts" and hope you can have a discussion with your significant other about what to due in case of trouble.

Good luck to all and stay safe and prepared,

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Old 09-07-2015, 04:46 PM   #16
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Old 09-08-2015, 09:20 AM   #17
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Just glad all is well now, Tom. There are weirdos out there, and there really is no way to prepare for them, other than in how to react on the off chance you do run into one.

This could have been me too, as I am a very trusting person, and never really concern myself about safety in situations like that. Sure it could get me in trouble, but in the end it mostly has worked out for me. You are not much different, heck you came out alone to have dinner and drinks with me, along with Lisa and 6 others you hadn't met before. They just mighta been creeps too. (note: we had met Tom previously at the Escape rally)
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Old 09-08-2015, 11:36 AM   #18
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You CAN take bear spray across the border - I've done it many times and declared it with no problems. Mace, no, you can't.

That fellow was lucky you weren't carrying concealed and he didn't get shot, especially in Alaska.
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Tom I am sure glad you were not physically hurt. You mentioned the police showed up 1/2 hr after he left. What action did they take to help you? Were they able to identify who he was by talking to people in the bar or on their security cameras if they had them? When an innocent person is threatened that way I sure hope the police locate him.
What an awful experience you went through.
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Old 09-17-2015, 05:08 PM   #20
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This wasn't her (the barmaid) by any chance, was it?
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