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Old 09-07-2015, 04:03 AM   #1
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What would you have done?

I'm sitting by myself at a rather nice sports bar .... had a beer with dinner and was just starting on a second when a guy comes up to my table and very aggressively demanded to know what I was doing.

"Im reading yahoo news on my cell phone".
(him) "Why are you doing that? My name is Lee"
(me) "Why not? Its like reading a news paper"
(him) "I'm going to teach you a lesson!"
I'm going to beat the **** out of you!"
(me) "What? I'm just sitting here!"
(him) I'm probably going to kill you!
Yes! I'm going to kill you!
I'm going to beat the **** out of you first .... and kill you!"
(I stood up) Get the hell out of here Lee!!!! I spun him around so his back was facing me ..... "GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE LEE!"

Fortunately, he did.

I went to the head bar maid and told her I needed help and asked her to call the police. I was sitting in a position where I could watch her and she did nothing more than pour drinks for other people. Gathering my thoughts I realized that I had a cell phone and I was the one assaulted ... it was up to me to make the call .... I did but the police arrived about a 1/2 hour after he left.

I full on alerted when he first said that he was going to "kick the **** out of me" and started to look for a weapon to defend myself .... any weapon. I was unarmed other than a Swiss Army knife with a bottle opener. Wasn't wearing a belt .... and nothing heavy on my table or within reach. When he said that he was going to have to kill me then my plan was to parry his punch and crash the salt shaker into his right temple as hard as I could. If this knocked him down it would either give me enough time to get away or do him in with my bar chair .... I know I wouldn't have stopped until he could not move any more if the chair was the option ..... It was that intense!

Soo .... what would you have done? Its been about two hours and I'm still all revved up.

I know that few of you know me but I'm really a peaceful person .... I haven't been in a fist fight since 6th grade I think. I have always been able to negotiate any kind of conflict. But here I was contemplating if I would need to try to take another mans life. I'm still shaking.

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Old 09-07-2015, 06:55 AM   #2
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Hi: StarvingHyena... At least I would have offered to open his bottle of beer with my "Swiss Army Knife". Alf
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Old 09-07-2015, 07:26 AM   #3
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StarvingHyena......First of all you must calm this guy down and then go over to the jukebox and put on Johnny Mathias album and then call 911.
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Old 09-07-2015, 09:16 AM   #4
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Is this a joke or something that really happened?
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Old 09-07-2015, 09:21 AM   #5
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Surely not something that happens in this day and age !
Sounds like something out of an old John Wayne movie .......well except that cell phone .....
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Old 09-07-2015, 09:22 AM   #6
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The fact that he wasn't combative when you spun him around would seem to indicate that this individual was a nut case. There are nut cases everywhere. Even some on this forum!
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Old 09-07-2015, 09:27 AM   #7
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Based on the head bar maid's lack of quick reaction (in a bar full of other patrons) and the slow response by the police after your call... this nut case sounds like the local town drunk. The kind everyone knows and no one fears because the threat is outta-the-mouth. He probably picked on you as you were the newcomer...

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Old 09-07-2015, 09:56 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by cpaharley2008 View Post
Is this a joke or something that really happened?
That is what I thought too.

Anyway, in the scenario above, the fellow sitting down was not physically assaulted, he was verbally threatenedl.

Maybe this is a riddle we are supposed to solve.

Odd that the protagonist gives his name.

Odd that the threatened person, who likely was frightened, could remember his name. In conflict situations our thoughts tend to focus on the threat. I don't remember names at the best of times, let alone if I was threatened
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Old 09-07-2015, 10:52 AM   #9
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Disengage with him, stop talking and back away.
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Old 09-07-2015, 11:16 AM   #10
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I spend quite a bit of time in bars as a bartender and bar manager while paying off my student loans. There is a significant % of adult males who should never drink - period. I watched a lot of guys go thru a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde transformation. They'd come in fairly mild mannered and after a few drinks it was like their whole personality changed violent. One night (when I was luckily off work), after sitting calmly and drinking, a guy suddenly pulled out a handgun and started shooting at people. Luckily he was a really bad shot and no one was killed or permanently injured. After shooting at some people at tables, he started shooting at guys at the pool table, they ducked behind it until he was out of ammo, chased him, and caught him outside until the cops arrived.

The result has been for me to become very aware of people when I am in a bar - which is infrequent now. Maybe people should have to earn a drinking license just like earning a drivers license. Prove that they aren't a violent drunk, instead are the silly ones like most of us.

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