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04-11-2017, 01:03 PM
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Ron in BC
I guess, looking for the silver lining, it's better that the rock broke a replaceable window rather than put a harder to repair chip in the gelcoat.
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My other silver lining is that it'll be a great excuse to take the trailer out more. Our crappy grass/weeds grow pretty quickly. I'll be using the trailer on my own far more than with Dirk, so he'll just be cutting the weeds more often I guess. Drawback though - he cuts down all the pretty yellow flowers that some folks call weeds but I (and the bees) like. (dandelions)
And yeah, heard the joke about planting potatoes before.
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04-11-2017, 01:04 PM
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Sorry to hear about your mishap, Laura.
After doing some extensive reading on the big RV forums when these windows were first announced, if they break whether it is the glass or the mechanism to open/close them, or any other part, the entire window unit has to be replaced. There were no parts or pieces available or offered and no one apparently can re-glue the mechanisms if they separate from the glass, thus you can't simply get just a glass replacement.
Hopefully this will change at some point in the future or it will be a real pain when something happens.
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04-11-2017, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg A
Sorry to hear about your mishap, Laura.
After doing some extensive reading on the big RV forums when these windows were first announced, if they break whether it is the glass or the mechanism to open/close them, or any other part, the entire window unit has to be replaced. There were no parts or pieces available or offered and no one apparently can re-glue the mechanisms if they separate from the glass, thus you can't simply get just a glass replacement.
Hopefully this will change at some point in the future or it will be a real pain when something happens.
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Thanks Greg. Interesting info and thanks for posting about it.
And, not to mention, expensive! Yeah, you can turn it into your insurance, but at what point do they raise your premiums and you end up paying more over the long run?
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04-11-2017, 03:31 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
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Originally Posted by Vermilye
I don't know how well "no residue" duct tape works, but another product I've used many, many rolls of is Gaffer's Tape. Used by theatre & the film industry, strong, leaves no residue even after months in place, and sticks to most surfaces well. More expensive than duct tape, but for most purposes, better. Get it from the nearest theatrical supplier. comparing the products.
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Jon I remember you mentioning Gaffers Tape before . I think I saw some at our Home Depot recently . Looks like very handy tape to have . Pat
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04-11-2017, 09:34 PM
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Update on the busted window
Got the plexiglass window installed this evening. The red at the top is another layer of the double sided tape we used to keep everything together. It's against the top of the glass and the metal hinge up there. I didn't remove the red covering as there won't be anything sticking to the outside of it. And I didn't feel like coming home to a bunch of bugs stuck to it. Major ick.
So, everyone needs to start crossing their fingers (mentally, of course) Thursday morning that it doesn't come flying off while driving down the road/freeway. Yes, I have lots of confidence in Dirk's work but I'm also many times a pessimist.
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04-11-2017, 09:36 PM
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Crud!
Forgot to attach the photos. Jeez.
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04-11-2017, 09:45 PM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NW Cat Owner
Got the plexiglass window installed this evening. The red at the top is another layer of the double sided tape we used to keep everything together. It's against the top of the glass and the metal hinge up there. I didn't remove the red covering as there won't be anything sticking to the outside of it. And I didn't feel like coming home to a bunch of bugs stuck to it. Major ick.
So, everyone needs to start crossing their fingers (mentally, of course) Thursday morning that it doesn't come flying off while driving down the road/freeway. Yes, I have lots of confidence in Dirk's work but I'm also many times a pessimist.
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I often say to wifey "Oh ye of little faith". If it blows off I'll make you a new covering on Thursday when you're here.
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04-11-2017, 10:07 PM
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This is a very unfortunate incident but it is good of you to document the solution, Laura. Maybe the thread should be re-titled "Replacing a Window" so it would be easier to find in future searches. Not that one would wish this on anyone...
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04-11-2017, 10:15 PM
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Rather than rely on tape to hold it on, I would drill a few holes through the plexiglass and zip tie it to a crossbar or other item inside the trailer. Put a piece of tape over the ties to keep out any drips.
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04-11-2017, 11:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ice-breaker
Rather than rely on tape to hold it on, I would drill a few holes through the plexiglass and zip tie it to a crossbar or other item inside the trailer. Put a piece of tape over the ties to keep out any drips.
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that is very great advice . Pat
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04-12-2017, 08:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ice-breaker
Rather than rely on tape to hold it on, I would drill a few holes through the plexiglass and zip tie it to a crossbar or other item inside the trailer. Put a piece of tape over the ties to keep out any drips.
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It's hard to tell from the two photos how well it is stuck on, but there is going to be some serious wind forces trying to rip it off. Especially with the overhanging edges. Another option might be drilling and then inserting a short screw in each corner through the plexiglass and then into the window frame. It is all being replaced anyway.
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04-12-2017, 10:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
It's hard to tell from the two photos how well it is stuck on, but there is going to be some serious wind forces trying to rip it off. Especially with the overhanging edges. Another option might be drilling and then inserting a short screw in each corner through the plexiglass and then into the window frame. It is all being replaced anyway.
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I think I like this advice even better . Didn't realize you have to replace the whole window . Probably the tape as well . The plexiglass is lighter then the glass , so it needs to be really secured. Pat
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04-12-2017, 12:10 PM
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#33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tractors1
I often say to wifey "Oh ye of little faith". If it blows off I'll make you a new covering on Thursday when you're here.
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Thanks!
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Originally Posted by KarenH
This is a very unfortunate incident but it is good of you to document the solution, Laura. Maybe the thread should be re-titled "Replacing a Window" so it would be easier to find in future searches. Not that one would wish this on anyone...
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I thought about that originally, but technically we've just done a temporary replacement, not a complete replacement. I'll probably do that separately (and reference this thread) when the new window gets put in.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ice-breaker
Rather than rely on tape to hold it on, I would drill a few holes through the plexiglass and zip tie it to a crossbar or other item inside the trailer. Put a piece of tape over the ties to keep out any drips.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
It's hard to tell from the two photos how well it is stuck on, but there is going to be some serious wind forces trying to rip it off. Especially with the overhanging edges. Another option might be drilling and then inserting a short screw in each corner through the plexiglass and then into the window frame. It is all being replaced anyway.
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I'll mention this to Dirk later on - thanks for these ideas. Not sure what it could be ziptied to inside the trailer though. The tape we used looks to be exactly the same stuff that Hehr used in various places. And yeah, the entire window will need to be replaced.
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04-12-2017, 12:12 PM
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#34
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FYI be very careful if you try to drill plexiglass as it will crack quite easily. If it is Lexan or Margard your fine to drill, it won't crack.
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