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Old 09-21-2012, 07:17 PM   #11
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

We looked at the Scamp after mulling over Bolers and thought... wow! Then we looked at the Casita, which was a step up from the Scamp. The owners of the Casita told us not to overlook the Escapes. Once we looked on line, we knew this was what we were looking for. A week later, a trip to the factory was made and after a few hours of looking at the trailers and talking talking to Tammy, we ordered our 15A then and there. The quality is 10 times that of the Scamp and Casita. We our extremely happy with our 15A Kaernhuset, but I might be a wee bit biased.

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Old 09-21-2012, 07:19 PM   #12
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

What started as a search for a used Casita led me to buy a new Escape.

I was after a 17' trailer, ready to give up the off-road pop-up, which we absolutely loved, but which lacked an inside toilet, and was a little less comfortable in inclement weather. For me it was headroom, number of windows (esp the front), and dislike of the carpeted walls on the Casita. That was the initial reasoning. Once I saw the referred 17B in person, and talked to it's owner, and then Tammy, it was all about the quality, ease of customization vs the "canned" approach of Casita, and the personalized approach during construction. Escape did not need a 50% deposit, as did Casita, and I decided a trip to Canada was going to be more fruitful and attractive than a trip to Texas!

We picked it up in late August, availed ourselves of some vacation time in Victoria while "up North", and brought it back to the Monterey Bay Area. We're lovin' it!

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Old 09-21-2012, 10:15 PM   #13
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

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These are all really helpful answers (some of which I mentioned when asked, some I didn't know about).

I'm curious -- does the Scamp really not have a fiberglass bottom? Eric, was it you that told us about the plywood? I remember when they bragged to us that they'd been using the same mold for something like 17 years, as if the fact that they were stuck in the 80s was a GOOD thing...


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The "plywood" bottom of the Scamp that they told me was "resin impregnated" turned out to be OSB board with a thin coat of sprayed-on fiberglass.
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:40 AM   #14
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

At this time, I have a 13' Scamp/bath&shower. I bought it 2 years used. It was in very good shape. The reason I ended up with Scamp was because I had never camped before, did not want to throw a bunch of money at something I may not enjoy. My mind is made up, when it comes time to upgrade, it will be an Escape 15B. As some have mentioned here, Scamp does not provide very good customer service, and it's product isn't all that well made. It's fine to get started with, but when I can travel more, the Escape will be more comfortable, better made, and more space. You get what you pay for. People on this site who have Escapes do not complain of any problems. Probably because there are not any. A good product will stand out, but customer service makes it a home run.

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Old 09-22-2012, 10:45 AM   #15
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

To be fair and reasonable it is safe to say there will be problems with anything in life, including a Escape trailer. To me the difference is the quality of the build and the ease of dealing with Tammy and Reace to correct things. If you want a example of my point try calling almost any company that you have bought something from for assistance with a problem and it will likely require a morning off work on the phone, un answered emails and probably no resolution to your problem. I can email Escape ( even after they have my money ) and within a day i have a response and last time Reace, the boss no less, called me himself to make sure he understood my question. This service simply doesn't happen anywhere else !!!
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Old 09-22-2012, 03:14 PM   #16
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

As a current Scamp owner of an oldy but goody, I can tell you my forever trailer will be an Escape. It doesn't matter what brand of molded trailer one owns, everything requires maintenance. The floor of my Scamp, which has been towed thousands of miles in it's 24 year history in the rain has a perfect floor. So, the fact it's sprayed with resin doesn't seem to be a problem. Rot happens from leaking windows, vents, etc. and all trailers have those.

I have no interest in purchasing a new Scamp... the layout isn't what I desire, so I can't attest to their new trailer customer service. However, I have purchased more than $500 worth of parts... like a sliding back window, gasket material, fresh water port, etc. and found talking to the parts people by phone to be a pleasant experience. I found them to be helpful.

The Scamp factory burned to the ground in January 2005. They lost all their moulds. In fact, at that time they increased in headroom in the 13 footer since new moulds needed to be made.

Just like Escape and Casita, Scamp sells every trailer they build and have a waiting list. They must be doing something right. It may be pricing related. Scamp trailers are at the lower end of the price spectrum and not everyone can have champagne when they're on a beer budget. I have no doubt that Scamp owners have as much fun and enjoy camping just as much as Escape owners. It's just different strokes for different folks.
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:58 PM   #17
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

I didn't mean to shut down this conversation with my post. I just wanted to clear up some of the suppositions folks have about Scamps. I've found it usually revolves around the floor....
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:53 PM   #18
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I didn't mean to shut down this conversation with my post. I just wanted to clear up some of the suppositions folks have about Scamps. I've found it usually revolves around the floor....
Donna Good Job!! Every trailer I have owned was fun while we had it. As you know we have owned many, like seven Bigfoot's, a Scamp, a Escape 19, back to Bigfoot.
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Old 09-24-2012, 11:12 PM   #19
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

Thanks Chuck. If I owned an Escape and someone asked me why... I'd say because it's TOP DRAWER. There are so many features that put it above the rest. However, it does come at a cost. If someone is looking to buy, it gets down... first to budget. I truly believe Escape is a "forever" trailer... I know it will be for me.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:17 AM   #20
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

RIVETS*RIVETS*RIVETS*RIVETS*RIVETS*RIVETS*RIVETS*R IVETS*RIVETS*RIVETS*RIVETS*RIVETS*RIVETS*RIVETS*RI VETS*
I can't tell you the number of rivets I replaced on our old Casita. On our last trip we had a chance to see a Scamp fifth-wheel, and it may have had even more rivets. For me, the deciding factor was the engineering.
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