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Old 08-01-2017, 08:29 AM   #61
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Yes, I'm sure you are right, however I don't want to haul that size rig, even though our 2011 4Runner is capable. I am surprised that more makers don't offer a twin bed floor plan !!
You could also buy a hard sided hybrid tent trailer .
It has a bed on both ends so no crawl over .
It can be towed by your present vehicle and the size when traveling is considerably less than a 19 or 21 ft Escape.
The price is well under the cost of an Escape or Oliver
Friends of ours recently purchased a new hybrid and I can assure you they are not the tent trailer of years past.
We were extremely impressed with their new trailer .
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Old 08-01-2017, 10:24 AM   #62
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Here is another interesting option coming soon.
Hymer recently bought Roadtrek and are starting to build trailers in Canada. Their model Eriba Touring, specifically model 542 offers kind of a hybrid twin bed. They joint together at the "head" but fan out so that it is easy for either person to get out of bed without disturbing the other. Hymer says they will be building this model in Canada and should be ready by the end of the year. I don't think they will be cheap, likely in the mid 40's CAD, but an interesting option. They also have a pop up roof, which gives a lower drag when the roof is lowered. In Europe these trailers have almost a cult following similair to Airstream.
https://www.eriba.com/en/models/cara...-and-data.html

If you visit their website, you can do a virtual tour.
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You could also buy a hard sided hybrid tent trailer .
It has a bed on both ends so no crawl over .
It can be towed by your present vehicle and the size when traveling is considerably less than a 19 or 21 ft Escape.
The price is well under the cost of an Escape or Oliver
Friends of ours recently purchased a new hybrid and I can assure you they are not the tent trailer of years past.
We were extremely impressed with their new trailer .
Steve: Make/model of the hybrid?
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Old 08-01-2017, 02:11 PM   #64
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Steve: Make/model of the hybrid?
Look at a Jayco Jayfeather, we have friends we camp with who just got one. Pretty roomy and they've had friends stay in the other end and not feel too cramped. The only drawback he said was the bedroom fabric "walls" let in a LOT of light early in the AM, but he's an early riser so not too affected.....but a dark tarp would solve that. Set up and take down was easy.

https://www.jayco.com/products/travel-trailers/
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Old 08-01-2017, 04:12 PM   #65
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It's a thought for sure, but we would like the convenience of simply entering the unit easily when stopping for lunch etc. without the need for raising the top.
Have owned a couple of Tent Trailers in the past, but haven't checked out any new ones.
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Old 08-01-2017, 04:22 PM   #66
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Thanks for this. Just checked out the layout and most impressive !! Not sure about the raised roof though.
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Old 08-01-2017, 04:26 PM   #67
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Look at a Jayco Jayfeather, we have friends we camp with who just got one. Pretty roomy and they've had friends stay in the other end and not feel too cramped. The only drawback he said was the bedroom fabric "walls" let in a LOT of light early in the AM, but he's an early riser so not too affected.....but a dark tarp would solve that. Set up and take down was easy.

https://www.jayco.com/products/travel-trailers/
OK, thanks, we'll check it out !!
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Old 08-01-2017, 04:30 PM   #68
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twin beds but a bit bigger and heavy
https://www.bigfootrv.com/images/250...08_25B25RT.jpg


https://www.livinlite.com/products/c...s/CL16BHB.html
or if you don't mind a small slide out
https://www.livinlite.com/products/c...s/CL16TBS.html


and there are some others that offer twin beds....
while some refer to most other trailers other than molded fiberglass as "stick built" and possibly inferring poor quality is IMHO not always accurate, but the roof material/construction is a concern in many...however many offer very good material selection for the remainder of the trailer and also better design/manufacturing techniques than some molded fiberglass mfgs like Escape....
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...many offer very good material selection and also better design/manufacturing techniques than some molded fiberglass mfgs like Escape....
I'm curious as to which other brand you've opted to buy or are you still in the pondering stage?
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Old 08-01-2017, 04:45 PM   #70
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Here you go. Twin beds with nice mattress and 23.5'. Only $56,000 with basic options when we visited them.



Yes, very nice indeed, now I just need to win the lottery !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-01-2017, 04:48 PM   #71
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Pondering or pestilential?
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Old 08-01-2017, 05:05 PM   #72
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Twin beds are terrible for snuggling with your significant other.

All trailers, especially the size of moulded fibreglass ones, are a compromise in one way or the other. One just needs to find the right one that fits the most important needs. If twin beds are a deal breaker, then Escape is likely not the trailer to choose.
Quite agree about the 'snuggling' part, but find that as we get older that the inevitable bathroom trips mean climbing over your partner which is not 'always' appreciated !!!!!!!
Did this in two previous M/H's when we were a lot younger !!
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Old 08-01-2017, 05:37 PM   #73
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Oh how I miss toweling down dew and/or rain wet fabric each morning before being able to fold them down and head out....

"Pestilential"......
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I'm curious as to which other brand you've opted to buy or are you still in the pondering stage?
perhaps even something with a stronger build.....perhaps better than fiberglass...barrel or heavy tracks might be good for reducing pesky critters and obstacles on the road...although gallons per mile rather than mpg is an issue
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leaning toward something well built.....perhaps better than fiberglass
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..while some refer to most other trailers other than molded fiberglass as "stick built" and possibly inferring poor quality is IMHO not always accurate, but the roof material/construction is a concern in many...however many offer very good material selection for the remainder of the trailer and also better design/manufacturing techniques than some molded fiberglass mfgs like Escape....
I refer to them as stick built not as a slam on their quality, but to point out that the walls/etc have support structure (studs or metal supports or whatever) vs a molded fiberglass trailer's shell where the shell itself is the structure.

Comparing the two isn't useful in a fiberglass forum unless you point out the advantages and disadvantages of each, such as weight, towing, leak potential, durability, etc.

In regards to quality, RESALE value is a pretty darn good commentary on that, and none of the stick built trailers mentioned here can hold a candle to fiberglass when it comes to resale. Watch what happens to a Jay Feather's resale value as you tow it off the dealer lot.
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I refer to them as stick built not as a slam on their quality, but to point out that the walls/etc have support structure (studs or metal supports or whatever) vs a molded fiberglass trailer's shell where the shell itself is the structure.

....Watch what happens to a Jay Feather's resale value as you tow it off the dealer lot.
As Robert says, stick built is a common term that is even used by some to describe stud wall home construction.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stick-built_home

...And about -30% last I read.
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We did have some people who went from an Escape back to a Casita for the twin beds. Twin beds can be nice but I would not get a Casita for them.
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Quite agree about the 'snuggling' part, but find that as we get older that the inevitable bathroom trips mean climbing over your partner which is not 'always' appreciated !!!!!!!
Did this in two previous M/H's when we were a lot younger !!
We were never bothered by the "climb over". Just another snuggling opportunity.

What we did find the last couple years with the 19, is that when one got up for a middle of the night trip, the other followed right after. I usually took the inwards side as I am always the first up after this trip, going to bed it was just whoever went to bed first when to the outward side.
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Oh how I miss toweling down dew and/or rain wet fabric each morning before being able to fold them down and head out....

"Pestilential"......
Oh yeah, how I miss those mornings.
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