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Old 09-20-2012, 04:04 PM   #1
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Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

All,

While out with our trailer in early September, we were approached by many curious peeps in the market for a fiberglass trailer of their own. And in each case, they said they were considering a Scamp or Casita -- and they asked us why Escape was the better choice. I had some answers, but I felt like I should know even better from peeps who either "graduated" from Scamps/Casitas or did more careful shopping than we did.

So ... why IS Escape a better choice? What do YOU say when YOU are asked?

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Old 09-20-2012, 04:46 PM   #2
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

While on our way home we were staying in Waterton National park and a guy with a Casita came over to talk to us and was very interested in our !9 ft. The main thing he was interested in was the extra insulation and dual pane windows. I was led to believe from him they are not a option with a Casita. Oh and he was also extremely interested with the fact that the 19 ft has a permnanent queen bed with a good matress as they were retired and spent 6-9 months a year traveling in their trailer.
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:00 PM   #3
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

Well, we are still waiting for our Escape, but I can tell you why we chose Escape over Casita. We were sold on the concept of a light fiberglass trailer and didn't know about Escape. My only experience had been with a Trillium 30 years ago and regretted selling it, except now we wanted a permanent bed and a bath/shower, which weren't in the old Trillium. We talked to the Canadian Trillium builders in Alberta but they were not putting full bath/showers in theirs and it really wasn't big enough. We had seen a Casita waiting for the ferry and were impressed by the size etc - all the reasons people are impressed by them. After seeing a used Boler and used Casita, we thought we'd buy a new Casita and went on line for info; that's how we found our way to the RVForum and thus the Escape site.

One look at the pictures of Escape and I knew it was the trailer we wanted. Here are the reasons:

1.Full height - some Casitas have very low ceiling height.

2.Layout seemed just right for us, especially the queen bed in the 19.

3.The rug wall coverings were the one feature of the Casita that really disturbed me. Some people seem to think they're fine or even great, but they're not for me. The used unit we saw was 10 years old and the rug wall coverings were unpleasantly darkened around the rim of every window, counter and seat. The owner said to just use carpet cleaner on it. No thanks. The unit smelled very unpleasant, part of which was the cleaning solution they had already tried to use on the carpeting; I can't help thinking that the carpet must absorb odors as well - maybe not - but that one experience had me very uneasy about it for the long term.

4. Ability to customize the fabric and countertops, as well as optional features like insulation and thermal windows, not to mention the other awesome things like solar power etc.

5. Escape are a BC company much closer to us than Casita in Texas. Although the Casita people seemed friendly on the phone, there is nothing like meeting the owners and people who are going to build your trailer. We were so impressed with everyone and everything we saw at the Escape factory, which is only a ferry ride and a comfortable 2 hr drive away. If there end up being any problems I like that the company is close by (and in the same country)

Having gone through the ordering process I can say it has been fun and reassuring that we have made the right choice for us.

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Old 09-20-2012, 06:35 PM   #4
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

The people we talked with who had Escapes had owned a Scamp or Casita and said the Escape was much better built. I think the Scamp is without the fiberglass bottom which someone thought important to the Escape. A former Casita owner said that there was no insulation (or they could not tell it if there was) and that the Escape insulation is very good. We can close the door to shut out much of the campground noise as well as have the insulation properties for keeping the heat in or out, as the case may be.

Rosemary, we had seen the same on Trilliums and there may still be one made in California but sans the Escape bathroom set-up. I did not receive a reply to an inquiry to them.
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:52 PM   #5
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

One word- "Customization"
Escape Trailers will build you the trailer you want, the way you want. You have input into where outlets, tv,windows, 12v all are located. You have solar,double or single pane windows, bath or no bath option, big or small a/c. The choices made make the trailer truly customized to your tastes. Try asking Airstream to change their a/c or outlet location. Ask Scamp if they will add a drawer or shelf or move the microwave. Try getting a tool box on a Casita. Escape hand builds each unit to the owner's specifications vs assembly line production like the others.
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:24 PM   #6
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

Hi: medora... When showing our Escape the first thing I point out is the seam...or lack thereof in the door jamb. Its only visable under the belly band trim so you should be able to see it on either side of the door...but you can't. Now that's fine fiberglass work!!!
Next thing is the MaxxFan. Reace only uses the best components possible and this fan is one of them!!!
Then look at the fit and finish inside the trailer and dare say lift the dinette compartment doors looking for loose wires. You won't find any.
Sure their trailers are more expensive... but they're made that way. Alf
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:18 AM   #7
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

We talked to a Casita owner in Yellowstone and he was most unhappy with the quality of parts used on his trailer---said he had to replace a lot of pieces andthere is a whole sub industry of replacement parts for Casita...

And people that looked at our trailer when we were away were really impressed with the workmanship..

BTW--Dmac--when were you in Waterton?? We left there yesterday 19th morning...
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:39 AM   #8
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

I can't really speak about Casitas as i have no experience with them, but the difference in quality of Escapes vs Scamps is striking. Nearly every aspect of our Escape is better made than comparables in our Scamp. I was dissatisfied with so many things about the Scamp and no one I talked to there seemed to really give a cr*p about improvements or customer satisfaction. Reace and Tammy correctly identified quality and customer satisfaction as their primary goals and in my opinion are accomplishing those goals.

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Old 09-21-2012, 10:26 AM   #9
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

When we initially were looking for a Travel Trailer we did a lot of research and when we saw the Escape - The choice was made! We have a couple of posts on our website covering our decision..

The ability to customize the Escape is without a doubt the most unique and incredible thing about purchasing the Escape.. The build quality is excellent!

Here's our comparison review of the trailers -> http://zimodecast.com/?p=82

Here's movies of the trailers we saw -> http://zimodecast.com/?p=83
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:54 PM   #10
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Re: Why Escape -- and not Casita, or Scamp, or something else?

These are all really helpful answers (some of which I mentioned when asked, some I didn't know about).

I'm curious -- does the Scamp really not have a fiberglass bottom? Eric, was it you that told us about the plywood? I remember when they bragged to us that they'd been using the same mold for something like 17 years, as if the fact that they were stuck in the 80s was a GOOD thing.

And -- when we say "you'll pay more for Escape's quality" -- how much are we talking? People asked -- I had some idea w/r/t Scamp, as we looked at them more closely (and there's really no "comparable" there anyway as what you get in a 17 ft Scamp is so much less) -- but are we generally talking 10% more? 20%? Is it even possible to quantify?

In a good-faith effort to become the best Escape Ambassador I can be,

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