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Old 06-04-2016, 04:04 PM   #61
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I've been using the WirEng antenna in the link above for the last year & 1/2 tied to an older Wilson Sleek. The antenna works as well or better than the Wilson Short Trucker Antenna I used before. That is a guess since it is almost impossible to compare them unless you have both at the same time.

While the new 2 antenna boosters (one outside antenna and one it the trailer) may work better, I switched from a Wilson Vehicle Boost Kit (it used an inside "candy bar" antenna & a Wilson Short Trucker Antenna outside, but is no longer available) to the Sleek & while it was nice having the ability to boost multiple phones / jetpacks at the same time with the Vehicle Boost Kit, I get far more gain from the Sleek with a phone or jetpack in the cradle. To get any gain from the Vehicle Boost Kit system I had to be within 3' or so to the inside antenna.
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Old 06-05-2016, 10:51 AM   #62
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So what antenna did you buy? Or do you just use the mag-mount one that came with the unit? Is better to just get the antenna mounted permanently to camper or put up when needed?
Thanks for all the replies to everyone... so now
the 4G-S or the 4G-M or the 4G-X OR RV 4-G directional antenna
have I left any out?
How do you use the 4G-S which is single for your laptop? can you use as a hot spot from cell phone? Otherwise I would have no booster for the laptop correct?
All the others would boost signal for phone and wifi? Not have to use phone as hot spot? I do not want to have 2 phone plans to pay so no jet pack.
I have AT&T and was thinking I might try T-Mobile to the free streaming and drop AT&T. Anybody use T-Mobile? Can you get reception?
I am trying not to permanently install a antenna (put hole in camper).
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Old 06-05-2016, 12:44 PM   #63
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So what antenna did you buy? Or do you just use the mag-mount one that came with the unit? Is better to just get the antenna mounted permanently to camper or put up when needed?
Thanks for all the replies to everyone... so now
the 4G-S or the 4G-M or the 4G-X OR RV 4-G directional antenna
have I left any out?
How do you use the 4G-S which is single for your laptop? can you use as a hot spot from cell phone? Otherwise I would have no booster for the laptop correct?
All the others would boost signal for phone and wifi? Not have to use phone as hot spot? I do not want to have 2 phone plans to pay so no jet pack.
I have AT&T and was thinking I might try T-Mobile to the free streaming and drop AT&T. Anybody use T-Mobile? Can you get reception?
I am trying not to permanently install a antenna (put hole in camper).
I prefer a permanently mounted antenna since i use it every day, sometimes while driving (I use WiFi to connect my AT&T iPhone to a Verizon jetpack for data when I'm driving in a non AT&T area). The real reason I switched to the WirEng antenna was that it didn't need a ground plane, and was smooth enough that I could leave it on the trailer when I covered it for the winter.

If you are going to use the magnetic antenna supplied with most of the WeBoost products, you will need to provide a ground plane. The metal roof of your tow vehicle works fine, however a fiberglass trailer does not. You will need to add a 6" - 8" disk which should be magnetic so it will hold the antenna.

Either a phone serving as a hotspot or a jetpack must be placed in the 4G-S cradle in order to connect it to a laptop (or any other WiFi device). While you can place a phone in the cradle and use a bluetooth earpiece to operate it as a phone, or put it on speaker, it is not as convenient as a dual antenna system such as the WeBoost 4G-M. Again, I got more gain from the cradle based system than the dual antenna system, but they may have improved this since the 2010 system I had.

You do need to maintain proper distances between the exterior & interior antenna, something that may be difficult in a small fiberglass trailer. The newer systems detect feedback between the two antennas and shut down or turn down the gain to prevent problems, however you may find positioning the two antennas a bit tricky.

All of the cell phone boosters do not boost WiFi - that is provided by either a phone serving as a hotspot or a jetpack. There are WiFi boosters, some that are plugged into the USB port on a laptop, and others that are stand alone, picking up the campground WiFi & performing as a router, providing your own WiFi network. WiFi Ranger, for example, provides a number of WiFi boosting & distribution products.

I travel with both AT&T & Verizon, and while AT&T has improved, I still have better coverage away from major roads & cities with Verizon. I have no experience with T-Mobile, but have been told that the provide poor coverage outside the major roads & cities.
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Old 06-05-2016, 01:40 PM   #64
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I guess I am really confused sorta.... Okay I will have to use my cell phone as a hot spot to use my laptop. I don't have much data so that is not good. I will really have to limit myself. I think I have 4 gbs. I don't use it now at home, use my wifi. I'm going to be learning alot..... will have to limit my use. Guess I better stay with At&t for now. I had Verizon up until 2 yrs ago when our signal got really bad.
So getting a better system with separate antenna and bar inside will just make it more confusing? Can't get antennas too close and it is close in the camper.
How close is the cradle to your laptop in the camper when you are using it? I know you have an external attached antenna. Escape is charging $100 to install antenna and another $100 to hook up wifi booster. Or just go with mag mount with a metal plate take down when moving. Would add a another input tv cable/ready with 120v outlet on front ds or ps of camper for external antenna. or does it need to be 12volt? I could always add a pole mount antenna if better antenna needed. Is the cable from the mag mount antenna coaxial so that I can hook into the cable ready port?
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Old 06-05-2016, 05:03 PM   #65
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I guess I am really confused sorta.... Okay I will have to use my cell phone as a hot spot to use my laptop. I don't have much data so that is not good. I will really have to limit myself. I think I have 4 gbs. I don't use it now at home, use my wifi. I'm going to be learning alot..... will have to limit my use. Guess I better stay with At&t for now. I had Verizon up until 2 yrs ago when our signal got really bad.
So getting a better system with separate antenna and bar inside will just make it more confusing? Can't get antennas too close and it is close in the camper.
How close is the cradle to your laptop in the camper when you are using it? I know you have an external attached antenna. Escape is charging $100 to install antenna and another $100 to hook up wifi booster. Or just go with mag mount with a metal plate take down when moving. Would add a another input tv cable/ready with 120v outlet on front ds or ps of camper for external antenna. or does it need to be 12volt? I could always add a pole mount antenna if better antenna needed. Is the cable from the mag mount antenna coaxial so that I can hook into the cable ready port?
Check with AT&T for tethering between your phone & laptop. The last time I checked with them there was an additional charge of $20.00 per month to tether. That was a few years ago, so things may have changed. It might make sense to look into their multi device plans since there have been many changes over the last couple of years. I'm still working with unlimited data on my iPhone, and any changes would make that go away.

Verizon does not charge to tether my iPad to my laptop.

The connection between the cradle and the laptop is provided by the cell device's WiFi, and depends on how strong it is. Typically, anywhere in the trailer will probably work; in my case I can connect to my jetpack from the tow vehicle.

While the antenna does not require power, most cell phones, jetpacks, & cell phone amplifiers can be powered from 120V AC or 12V DC connections - some come with both power supplies/cables, some with 12V only, and some with 120V only. Most have a USB input for power. If you are purchasing your own 12V to USB cable or 120V USB adapter, be sure to check the power requirements of the device - some require higher amperage ratings than the typical USB cable.

While the cell antenna is coaxial cable, it is not compatible with TV coax. Different connectors & different impedance. Escape will (for a $) install a port or doorway into the trailer that can be used to feed the antenna coax to the interior amplifier.
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Old 06-05-2016, 06:13 PM   #66
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I tether my iPhone ( Telus ) to my MacBook Air using Bluetooth.
What the heck is AT&T doing to earn that $20?
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I tether my iPhone ( Telus ) to my MacBook Air using Bluetooth.
What the heck is AT&T doing to earn that $20?
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I used up my 400 MB data plan up in Osoyoos, and incurred Nationwide Data charges. Cost me $2.05 for 105 MB.
Son-in-law works IT for Telus and set up the plan I have. Can't get it anymore.
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Check with AT&T for tethering between your phone & laptop. The last time I checked with them there was an additional charge of $20.00 per month to tether. That was a few years ago, so things may have changed. It might make sense to look into their multi device plans since there have been many changes over the last couple of years. I'm still working with unlimited data on my iPhone, and any changes would make that go away.
Tethering involves another device charge ($20) with ATT; this would be the case if you ran a MIFI device in your cradle. We just use our iPhones in the cradle as a personal hotspot for no extra charge.

I dumped the ATT unlimited data plan for a shared mobile plan as the cost wasn't bad and the bandwidth isn't throttled like the unlimited plan. No problem streaming Netflix movies.
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Tethering involves another device charge ($20) with ATT; this would be the case if you ran a MIFI device in your cradle. We just use our iPhones in the cradle as a personal hotspot for no extra charge.
The MiFi (or similar) is actually a separate device, so it is another subscriber device on the network and I would expect any carrier to charge for it, as Telus does for mine. The phone is already on the network, so using it with a tethered (or connected by Bluetooth) laptop is not an extra device on the mobile network, so I don't see a justification for an extra charge. Both of my phones are used as mobile hotspots (like the MiFi), and with Telus (as with ATT) that use doesn't change the charge; I don't see why tethering would.

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