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Old 10-18-2017, 06:51 PM   #1
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Coming back from the Oregon coast decided to explore southern Oregon. Left Bullard beach sp & drove to Hart Mt refuge. Wow, what a road as well as wondrous scenery. Camped at hot springs which settled my nerves after miles of wash board road. Then headed to French Glenn & Page springs. Wowza! More bumpy slow miles. Once ensconced in this beautiful Cg found things amiss. Fridge door difficult to open & screen door seems to catch on frame now. Tighten as many screws as I could find. May have to live with this. Warning, our escapes do not like 100’s of miles of washboardy roads! On a happier note, was able to winterize easily w winterizing t valve. Now concerned about that city water inlet everyone’s chatting about. Sorry for the ramble. Julie
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Old 10-18-2017, 07:04 PM   #2
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Warning, our escapes do not like 100’s of miles of washboardy roads! Julie
That's not been my experience. I've done a lot of washboard in Alaska, Baja and across the U.S. and Canada. The only things that have loosened up on my trailer have been some cabinet door hinge screws and the microwave bracket screws. In that case, I mean, really, holding the microwave by surface mounting the front and leaving the entire weight cantilevered into the opening. A spacer at the rear improved that situation.

But the bottom line is that small items that may loosen are no biggie when you consider the major factor is that the shell is "one piece" and can take a huge amount of washboard and still not develop leaks etc.

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Old 10-18-2017, 07:19 PM   #3
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How fast do you drive wash board if you want the rig to survive.

We have pot holes, not wash board.
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Old 10-18-2017, 07:27 PM   #4
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I drove very slow no more than 20 mph
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Old 10-18-2017, 07:59 PM   #5
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Glad to hear I'm not the one actually using there trailer and tightening a few screws from time to time . My fridge door has fallen off twice .. so far ....
Like they say enjoy the ride ... it's one way .
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Old 10-18-2017, 08:11 PM   #6
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Our microwave did the same thing. I'll cut a couple pieces of foam and wedge it to prevent it from happening again. Thanks for the idea. I had put wood glue in the screw holes to see if that would help.

It may never happen but to prevent the fridge door from opening I take a small piece of low residue duct tape and use it to hold the door closed.
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Old 10-18-2017, 08:40 PM   #7
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How fast do you drive wash board if you want the rig to survive.

We have pot holes, not wash board.
Depends.
I drive as fast as necessary to smooth out the ride, but not so fast that the tow and trailer start sliding sideways in the corners.
It's kinda like speed bumps. I don't slow down for most of them either.
Pot holes are an entirely different animal.
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Old 10-18-2017, 09:36 PM   #8
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How fast do you drive wash board if you want the rig to survive.

We have pot holes, not wash board.
On the worst 20 mile section of Mex 5 it takes me 1 1/2 hours.
But it's the potholes that slow me down. As Glen says, on washboard speed is mostly determined by finding the sweet spot. Going uphill on the Moki Dugway it's almost all washboard and you definitely have to make sure the trailer doesn't start drifting sideways on the hairpins.


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Our microwave did the same thing. I'll cut a couple pieces of foam and wedge it to prevent it from happening again. Thanks for the idea. I had put wood glue in the screw holes to see if that would help.

The problem on ours was that the "floor" of the microwave compartment wasn't square to the face. The back of the microwave may have sat on the floor before the face screws were tightened but as they tightened up pulling the brackets into position it lifted the rear of the microwave. That left the microwave cantilevered into the opening. A lot of strain on the face mounted screws even from small bounces.


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Old 10-18-2017, 09:56 PM   #9
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You would not want to go through our area because there are big dips in the road all over town. Also common in New Mexico and don't know where else. Not something we see up north. Guess it is for flash floods but don't know. All of a sudden, Whoa!! You can really hit.
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Old 10-18-2017, 10:34 PM   #10
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You would not want to go through our area because there are big dips in the road all over town. Also common in New Mexico and don't know where else. Not something we see up north. Guess it is for flash floods but don't know. All of a sudden, Whoa!! You can really hit.
Very common in Baja. It saves installing a culvert or a bridge. The road dips down into a wash and back up again. Saves money and heck, most of the time there's no water in it anyway. Another good reason not to travel at night.

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Old 10-19-2017, 12:25 AM   #11
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We take a similar approach to washboard as others have noted. Drove over 50 kms of gravel roads over the summer - fast enough to smooth out the washboard but slow enough to stop for the potholes and maintain control in the loose gravel. The only problem we have had is a cracked black water dump valve from some flying rock.


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Old 10-19-2017, 07:35 AM   #12
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Old 10-19-2017, 07:46 AM   #13
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It may never happen but to prevent the fridge door from opening I take a small piece of low residue duct tape and use it to hold the door closed.
Hey, I went high tech and cat-themed for my cabinet door and 2 flip-up counters.

I've not done the frig, but that's on my list of stuff to do.

Now, isn't this classier than duct tape?
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Old 10-19-2017, 08:14 AM   #14
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I have seen a flip up table flip up when not being used or is this part of the cat glamping?
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Old 10-19-2017, 08:37 AM   #15
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If it ain't paved, it ain't be used.....!
I'm with you. If I can avoid those kinds of "torture tests" for my trailer, I'm going to pick another road, when available.

I understand that camping is an adventure and I grew up on gravel roads while learning to drive a manual transmission: 3-on-the-tree. However, as much fun as it was learning to drift in those turns, I like may trailer waaaaay too much to subject it to the pounding that some of the cars I was allowed to drive were put through.

Not condemning anyone else's choice of roads or sense of adventure, but I'm just sayin' that I worked hard to be able to afford an Escape and I won't be bouncing it around if I can avoid it. If unavoidable, y'all will think I'm towing with a farmer's combine because I'll be coasting along between 5-10 mph and making everyone late.
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Old 10-19-2017, 08:42 AM   #16
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If it ain't paved, it ain't be used.....!
That would eliminate 90% of our trailer camping. One of the reasons I like Escape, and other moulded FG trailers, is that they can easily handle this type road.
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Old 10-19-2017, 09:07 AM   #17
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That would eliminate 90% of our trailer camping. One of the reasons I like Escape, and other moulded FG trailers, is that they can easily handle this type road.
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I have a county map that I've used to search for "gravel" roads.

I've found ONE road that was about a mile of unpaved road and another that was about 1/4 mile that seemed more like a driveway. I was able to drive into the National Forest and find several Forest Service Roads that would be considered "two track" and most were unimproved without any surface improvements or limited gravel patches.

My search was limited to the immediate county but I abandoned my search since it seem incredibly unproductive. I can only assume that the surrounding counties are in a similar condition. You'd have to wander far and wide in Kentucky to find an old dirt road these days.

I figure these conditions vary widely, but that's what makes it an adventure. If'n I find gravel, I'll jus' slow down and carry on.
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Perhaps in Canada things are different but in Pennsylvania it is hard to find unpaved paths and if you did there certainly no campsites located there. Seems like it is most elsewhere, old native american paths that become trails then become roads then become interstates.
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One thing that can make a difference is how loaded your trailer is. Our 19 lightly loaded weighs around 3700 Lbs with all tanks empty with the hitch taking about 480 off of that so the axle weight is around 3220. We have 2 3500 Lb axles on ours instead of the 2500 Lb specified on the spec sheet. So we have a little bit of extra suspension and have noticed if you put something on the bed and hit a bump it gets launched.
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:19 AM   #20
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Perhaps in Canada things are different but in Pennsylvania it is hard to find unpaved paths and if you did there certainly no campsites located there. Seems like it is most elsewhere, old native american paths that become trails then become roads then become interstates.
There are quite a few gravel roads around my area and some of them can be very interesting to travel on. And a few you wonder if you really belong there.
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