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Old 09-24-2011, 12:20 AM   #11
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Re: Winter Storage On Jack Stands

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Old 09-27-2011, 02:29 AM   #12
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Re: Winter Storage On Jack Stands

About putting the jack stands under the axles -- seems to me I recall reading someplace that these Dexter axles can be damaged by putting the weight of the trailer on them, so we shouldn't jack the trailer with an axle jack, but jack it only by the frame. Tammy confirmed this method of jacking (by the frame) when I asked her about it a couple of years ago.

Apparently these axles have a torque tube inside them that acts as a spring, and being hollow tubes, they aren't engineered to take the bending stress that would be put on them by having the weight of the trailer bear down on one small spot.

Suggest we check this out with Tammy & Reace before accidentally getting into needing to replace an axle. The safest bet might be to put the jack stand under the frame.

I think the owner's manual may have something to say about how to jack, but I can't handily find it right now.

Happy storage!

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Old 09-29-2011, 07:09 PM   #13
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Re: Winter Storage On Jack Stands

We recently went up to Faro for a couple of nights, the location where we parked was not anywhere near level.

I had to jack up the trailer on the off side from the door, with the scissors jacks I installed, I was glad to have them, took me about five minutes.

By the time the trailer leveled out the wheels on the off side to the door were 7"off the ground, as I said we were there for two noghts before we returned to Whitehorse.
The traile was extremely stable with all four jacks down.

Next week I am going up past Ross River on the North Canol road to see If I can get a Moose, I under stand the road is rough and do not expect to find a level plce to park the traier.
I am glad we now have the scissors jacks in place. For the hunters in the crowd I use a 6.5X55 with Norma 156 grains.

From my point of view scissors jacks are the only way to go.
For winter storage you can lift the trailer, place wood blocks under the frame, let the trailer rest on them and use the jacks for balance.

The temperatures at night are now going down to minus double digits and the snow is here.

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Old 09-29-2011, 08:01 PM   #14
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Re: Winter Storage On Jack Stands

My 5.0 came with the factory scissor jacks. I asked Reace if they would be suitable for lifting the wheels off the ground (as the weight is well within the jack's capacity). His response was an emphatic "no," with the explanation that the frame was not stressed to take that weight. The 19's frame may be stronger, but I'd check with the factory first.

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Old 09-29-2011, 09:52 PM   #15
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Re: Winter Storage On Jack Stands

When we picked up our 17B, Reace had installed scissor jacks that he said the supplier had mistakenly sent. I asked about jacking up the trailer with them and he said I could even use them to change tires if I ever need to. He said that the 17B frame was plenty strong. I love having them and suggest to people who see ours to ask Reace to add them as an option.

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Old 09-29-2011, 10:56 PM   #16
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That's really interesting. I'm going to have to follow up on that...sounds like I got conflicting information.
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Re: Winter Storage On Jack Stands

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About putting the jack stands under the axles -- seems to me I recall reading someplace that these Dexter axles can be damaged by putting the weight of the trailer on them, so we shouldn't jack the trailer with an axle jack, but jack it only by the frame. Tammy confirmed this method of jacking (by the frame) when I asked her about it a couple of years ago.

Apparently these axles have a torque tube inside them that acts as a spring, and being hollow tubes, they aren't engineered to take the bending stress that would be put on them by having the weight of the trailer bear down on one small spot.
I have a 16' Scamp and the manual says not to jack the trailer up using the axle. Scamp says to place the jack just in front or behind the axle on the frame.
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:15 PM   #18
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Re: Winter Storage On Jack Stands

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When we picked up our 17B, Reace had installed scissor jacks that he said the supplier had mistakenly sent. I asked about jacking up the trailer with them and he said I could even use them to change tires if I ever need to. He said that the 17B frame was plenty strong. I love having them and suggest to people who see ours to ask Reace to add them as an option.

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After reading more, I decided to contact Reace and Tammy to make sure it was ok to use the installed scissor jacks for winter storage. Tammy emailed me back and said: "Reace said in a emergency these jacks would be safe for changing the tire. However, for a long term storage they would pull the weight too far back from the axle so he does not recommend it for winter storage."

So my mistake in extrapolating what he said to me about using them to change a tire into thinking that that made it ok for winter storage also. Back to jack stands for me.

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Old 10-18-2011, 07:49 PM   #19
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Old 11-21-2011, 12:26 AM   #20
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Re: Winter Storage On Jack Stands

http://dexteraxle.com/i/u/6149609/f/...orage_6-11.pdf

Checked the Dexter Axle site and the link above states that we should not be using the axle to lift and store the trailer.

Looks like I will putting jackstands on the frame.

Should I overcompensate and use four to distribute the weight better or is two good enough.
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