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Old 10-03-2017, 10:18 PM   #1
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Tried to winterize our 2017 Escape21 yesterday, as it dropped to 30 degrees here in Montana this week. Using the "wet method", I drained the tanks, pulled the water heater anode, turned the valves to water heater bypass and added 3 gallons of RV antifreeze to the fresh water tank. The water pump just ran constant, never charging the lines. I added another gallon of antifreeze, then another and another. With 8 gallons in it now and the water pump still not moving it, I think maybe there's an issue. Perhaps an airlock of some sort?

I have a winterizing T valve with a on/off switch right above the pump, but they don't seem to do anything that I can figure out. Any input appreciated.
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Old 10-03-2017, 10:24 PM   #2
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Not sure what the problem is, but I pump anti-freeze through the lines from the city water connection. I don't put any in the fresh water tank.
Drain the water heater and bypass it as you have done. Drain the fresh water tank. Run the pump for about 20 seconds so it is empty and then pump antifreeze.
Need somebody inside to open taps, one at a time, and shout when they see pink. Put some in the traps and you're done. Takes a couple gallons, at most.
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If I were you I would drain the water tank antifreeze back into the bottles and then shut the drain valve. The Winterizing T valve should have a pickup hose on it that will pull the antifreeze out of the jug and push it through the system as Glenn says, open the taps one at a time and watch for the pink to come out when the pink shows up. Flush the toilet a few times so pink goes Through the valve. Drain or leave the antifreeze in the grey and black tanks and drain them in the spring. Bleach with 1/2 cup of chlorox in the spring and
Flush the fresh water tank about three time and you're good to go.
Push in on the backflow screen and stem with your finger on the city water fill so it does not perch water.
Read the manual. Or rationalize it through.
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Tried to winterize our 2017 Escape21 yesterday, as it dropped to 30 degrees here in Montana this week. Using the "wet method", I drained the tanks, pulled the water heater anode, turned the valves to water heater bypass and added 3 gallons of RV antifreeze to the fresh water tank. The water pump just ran constant, never charging the lines. I added another gallon of antifreeze, then another and another. With 8 gallons in it now and the water pump still not moving it, I think maybe there's an issue. Perhaps an airlock of some sort?

I have a winterizing T valve with a on/off switch right above the pump, but they don't seem to do anything that I can figure out. Any input appreciated.
Redbeard, if you have the winterizing T valve, you should have hose you connect or is already connected to the valve. Hose goes into antifreeze bottle and you turn pump on to pull fluid straight out of bottle.

If you find you need help, let me know as I live in Bozeman as well!
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Redbeard, I just sent you private message.
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The water pump just ran constant, never charging the lines. I added another gallon of antifreeze, then another and another. With 8 gallons in it now and the water pump still not moving it, I think maybe there's an issue. Perhaps an airlock of some sort?
Did you have the taps open? If the water lines are empty and filled with air then it's hard for the pressure to build up enough as the air is compressible. Leave the taps open and hopefull you'll hear a hissing, then some sputtering and then some spurts of liquid.

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Redbeard, if you have the winterizing T valve, you should have hose you connect or is already connected to the valve.
We are also getting ready to winterize for the first time and have the T valve. I was planning to stick the hose connected to the T valve under the bed in our 19 into the jug of antifreeze avoiding putting lots of antifreeze into the freshwater tank. However, I did notice that there is water in the loop of clear plastic hose underneath the freshwater tank and I'm assuming that would be left behind and freeze. Or, perhaps I haven't run the pump long enough.

My question is should that outside hose underneath the freshwater tank be empty?
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Redbeard, if you have the winterizing T valve, you should have hose you connect or is already connected to the valve. Hose goes into antifreeze bottle and you turn pump on to pull fluid straight out of bottle.
If you had the winterizing t-valve in the open position with the pump running it would be pulling air in and no antifreeze from the tank. The point of the t-valve is so you don't need to put antifreeze in the fresh water tank. Either way, the pump is self-prining so if it was working correctly with water there is no reason it shouldn't be pulling antifreeze through the system whether from the tank (with t-valve closed) or from an antifreeze jug directly (with t-valve open).
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Tried to winterize our 2017 Escape21 yesterday, as it dropped to 30 degrees here in Montana this week. Using the "wet method", I drained the tanks, pulled the water heater anode, turned the valves to water heater bypass and added 3 gallons of RV antifreeze to the fresh water tank. The water pump just ran constant, never charging the lines. I added another gallon of antifreeze, then another and another. With 8 gallons in it now and the water pump still not moving it, I think maybe there's an issue. Perhaps an airlock of some sort?

I have a winterizing T valve with a on/off switch right above the pump, but they don't seem to do anything that I can figure out. Any input appreciated.
Did you check to make sure the valve on the underside of your freshwater tank was closed? I once was changing oil in my wifes car and forgot to put the plug back into the oil pan before adding new engine oil. Sure took a lot of oil to fill! And it was the expensive synthetic oil also. You never make that mistake twice.
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