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Old 04-07-2016, 03:49 PM   #51
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When you look at the wiring in our trailer you'll see many splices, sometime an inch or two of wire extending a run, and color changes. On the counter top side all the wiring to the lights and stove fan is 'zip' (lamp) cord. So you have brown with no line ... and brown with a line.

Notice in #1 red, splice, one inch red, splice green. etc. On the second pic yellow with insulation damage and red/green combined in splice etc.
When I toured the Escape factory a few years ago, I noticed the electrical harness (or at least some portion of it) being built on a layout board on the wall; the prepared harness would then be installed into the trailer (presumably before some of the interior). This is quite different from stringing individual wires through the trailer (which, by the way, is the way buildings are wired), and helps ensure consistently correct layout (including colour-coding).

Looking at Klem's photos, I wonder if someone had pasted together some harness sections which didn't match in colour-coding (thus the changes) and didn't even reach each other in some cases (thus the ridiculous short sections). Perhaps this was due to a change of interior layout, or a miscommunication of what wiring was needed. Of course this should have meant a fresh start, but people often to inappropriate things under production schedule pressures. This is one of the reasons that quality control is challenging.
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Old 04-07-2016, 04:02 PM   #52
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A thought "rambling through me wee heed" as Jim would say, is ETI expected/required to produce their wiring, plumbing, gas and other plans/schematics just because some think they should?
I would say no, but I also think there are legitimate reasons to be able to supply these - as do most manufacturers of most products outside of the RV industry - and there are even more reasons to have them internally (to guide and control production).
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Old 04-07-2016, 04:40 PM   #53
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My trailer was built in 2008. And there was a QC employee, because I met her.
Every run is bundled with zip ties and secured to framing.
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Old 04-07-2016, 04:43 PM   #54
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My trailer was built in 2008. And there was a QC employee, because I met her.
Every run is bundled with zip ties and secured to framing.

Looks nice and tidy and well done just like mine, imagine that!
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Old 04-07-2016, 07:15 PM   #55
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As a newbie to the forum with a 2017 on order, I have found this thread interesting and informative, despite the political thrillers. I think what most people are saying here is quality is preferred over shoddy construction, regardless of the methods used to achieve the result (union or non-union, certified tradesperson or jack-of-all-trades).

My wiring experience is about nil, so I'm hoping that the construction quality displayed in the pictures shown early in the thread is a rare exception, and that the wiring in my trailer is installed in a rational manner with attention to detail and quality.
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Old 04-07-2016, 08:45 PM   #56
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Old 04-07-2016, 09:57 PM   #57
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Hello everyone...

Yep...not too proud of what some of our crew had put out. I attached a couple of photos of the next trailer off the line...and I think they look up to par.

I will agree there is a mess in one of the photos, however, trying to match each components wiring color is difficult. For example, we run a 4 wire ribbon for the running lights (white, brown, yellow and green). The yellow wire connects to the red wire on the taillight on the driver side and the green wire connects to the red wire on the taillight on the passenger side (don't quote me on colors)...I just know the left signal light wire is a different color than the right signal light color...but both taillights have the same color to attach to. Then we use green, white and black wires for the furnace run, as that is the color the furnace uses, but we also have the water pump and water heater on that run which use different color wires.

There was a point when we used the splice connectors buried within the walls and overhead cabinets. We no longer use them in those areas and changes to the harness have been made to lessen the amount of splices made. We still use them, however they are in areas that are fairly easily accessible.

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Old 04-07-2016, 10:03 PM   #58
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I appreciate that attitude of wanting to do the best. Thank you!
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Old 04-07-2016, 10:13 PM   #59
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Thanks, Reace for the follow-up. As I posted earlier in this thread the 19 we picked up in Nov looked very professionally done in regards to the wiring when I checked it over. Our trailer looks very similar to the pics you posted above and I've not seen any of the prior issues noted on some of the earlier trailers.
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Old 04-07-2016, 10:16 PM   #60
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We have had boats that have had the same problems where someone has changed the wires not good for someone trying to fix something . We have a 21 due in Jan 04 /17
It seems Reese is on top of it. Thank You for striving to produce the Best
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