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Old 05-01-2014, 01:25 PM   #1
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Wiring for lighting & accessories

I'm about to change a couple of existing light fixtures and add a couple of new ones (all LED) as well as add an additional 12V outlet. Is 18 AWG stranded speaker wire appropriate for these projects? All very short runs and will solder all connections. Thanks in advance for your replies!
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Old 05-01-2014, 02:35 PM   #2
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LED lighting - yes.

12V outlet - probably not, but it depends. See:
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I used thermostat or bell wire for led lights but heavier for 12v outlets.
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Old 05-01-2014, 08:32 PM   #4
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Thanks, guys. It'll be easy to tap into existing lighting wiring. Any idea where I can find access to an existing source for the additional 12V outlets? I want to put one in the small, upper compartment above the microwave and another near the stove. Thanks for allowing the follow-up question.
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In the 19 if there is a factory 12v by door you can get access to the rear, perhaps tap into that and run a lead thru the cabinet to the opposite wall? In the closet is the wire to the light in the bath, how about using that for an extra 12v? ETI uses pretty heavy wire to their lights.
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Does ETI physically block off the cabinet outlets internally or are they in retail style plastic boxes? I'm adding an extra 12V outlet on my 21 above the nightstand with the hopes of tapping off the back side to install undercabinet LED strip lighting (with dimmer.) Should I try for a 12V "drop" there (just coiled up wires capped off) instead? Final build sheet due today!!!
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Does ETI physically block off the cabinet outlets internally or are they in retail style plastic boxes? I'm adding an extra 12V outlet on my 21 above the nightstand with the hopes of tapping off the back side to install undercabinet LED strip lighting (with dimmer.) Should I try for a 12V "drop" there (just coiled up wires capped off) instead? Final build sheet due today!!!
I had ETI leave 12v drops in all the OH cabinets for "future" modifications of some sort. Sure glad I did as it made it much easier to add strip lighting in the cabinets.
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Thanks Don - exactly my plan. Wifey went bonkers when I added dimmable LED lights inside a kitchen cabinet with glass doors and now wants it everywhere!
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We did the same thing and will be adding more.
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Someone once mentioned that the wiring for the lighting in the overhead cabinets runs in between the false floor of the cabinet and the true bottom of the cabinet...does anyone know how to remove the false floor to gain access to the wiring inside the cabinet?
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In our case, we had Rease install wire in each of the cabinets for future install of lights. The wire was coiled-up and available to us in each of the cabinets--not in any sort of false floor.
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In our case, we had Rease install wire in each of the cabinets for future install of lights. The wire was coiled-up and available to us in each of the cabinets--not in any sort of false floor.
That's certainly the way to do it if you buy new, but ours was purchased used so no option for that.
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Fran, could always make a hole in the false floor to access the wiring, than put in a new false floor on top of the old one.
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Fran, could always make a hole in the false floor to access the wiring, than put in a new false floor on top of the old one.
Another option is to pull the 12 volt light fixture from underneath the cabinets to gain access to the 12 V wiring and then "fish" wires through to where ever you need to go to thru the existing hole for the fixture.
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I am going to have ETI run power and ground wires into the over head storage bins and wardrobe so I can install lights later, really tired of holding a flashlight in my mouth while I dig around in these areas
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Someone once mentioned that the wiring for the lighting in the overhead cabinets runs in between the false floor of the cabinet and the true bottom of the cabinet...does anyone know how to remove the false floor to gain access to the wiring inside the cabinet?
A really good question Fran. I'll ask it again, has anyone actually removed the floor in a cabinet to get access to the wiring? Of so how did you do it?

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I didn't remove a section of floor to get at the wiring; just added new. I'm not sure how it would be possible to put back the flooring you removed - it looks to be continuous the length of the cabinets.

I ran #20 wire fused at 1 amp for the in cabinet lighting. Some cabinets already had 12V wiring which I tapped into. Others required runs, either from other cabinets or new. In all cases, the new #20 wire was run along the top edge inside the front of the cabinet, which was also the location of the LED strip lighting. I added a miniature toggle switch for each. Photos on my modifications page (scroll down to the end of the 2011 modifications).
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Jon,

Thanks for the reply. The floor of a cabinet does look well installed. I was hoping someone may have found a secret release spot..........insert small pry bar here and lift sort of thing.
No such luck, guess its fishin' a wire time.

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I really like that sensible little hot water-is-on LED mod of yours. Got to do that.
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. I think jim was the first to do that .. My LEDs and holders are on order for that project
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