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J Mac 05-14-2014 01:07 PM

refilling 1 pound propane tanks
 
Save $$$ Refill Propane Cylinders its Easy - YouTube

I just bought the adapter for $20.00.

gbaglo 05-14-2014 01:29 PM

Read on the other site that refilled 1lb tanks often slowly leak and if you store them inside the trailer will set off the alarm. Aside from wasting gas.
I'll pass on this adapter.
Also, if the 1lb. tank has been attached to a device and then removed, it is prone to leaking.

dave macrae 05-14-2014 01:33 PM

I bought a 5 lb refilable propane tank last year so I can be rid of those pesky wasteful little 1 pound bottles. fits nicely in the front storage box ( outside the trailer ) and with moderate use of the grill and fire pit seems to last quite a while.

J Mac 05-14-2014 01:34 PM

What other site are you referring to Baglo? The "speaker" on the youtube mentioned that only One has leaked in the many years he has been doing this.
I don't keep gas or propane tanks in my trailer.

J Mac 05-14-2014 01:34 PM

Why are those 5 pound tanks so darn expensive?

daveandsandyclink 05-14-2014 01:52 PM

I question how safe it is to refill throw away propane cylinders. Their not designed for refill. How about overfilling and expansion?

The bottle label states the following;
NEVER REFILL THIS CYLINDER
REFILLING MAY CAUSE EXPLOSION !
FEDERAL LAW PROHIBITS TRANSPORTATION IF REFILLED-PENALTY UP TO $500,000.00 FINE AND 5 YEARS IMPRISONMENT (49USC.5124)

I know this is an environment issue for many of you but... I think I'll just purchase the very few 1lb bottles I use.

gbaglo 05-14-2014 01:55 PM

It was a discussion over on FGRV.
You'd have to search and then accept the resulting fury.

J Mac 05-14-2014 02:26 PM

I'm sure you guys are right but I do have a couple questions.
The gas fitters I talked to said that there is very little pressure in 20 lb or 1 lb tanks and that limits the possibility of an explosion.
As for the transportation of said tanks and the $5000,000.00 fine associated with it....how would anybody know the tank was refilled?
As for the leaking aspect, the adapter end has the same end as the stove or BBQ that the tanks are normally hooked to and those tanks go on and off the stove many times during the life of the tank without creating a leak.
Does anybody here think the economic/convenience aspect is worth it to refill?

I'll go with what he majority here seems to think.

Jim Bennett 05-14-2014 02:31 PM

I have done this for a while in the past, but gave up on it for a few reasons.

1. It is really tough to get the small bottles full. If you freeze them first, it helps.

2. I did have one that ended up with a slight leak. Those small bottles don't have a quality reusable valve on them.

3. I always seemed to run out of the wee bottles, right when I needed one.

Bottom line, I dropped the system as it was just too much of a PITA to do. My time has way more value that what I saved. I did it more for the fact I hate that these bottles are disposable, and realistically, you are not allowed to send them to the dump, they should be disposed of in an appropriate manner.

Instead I now have the low pressure connection for the BBQ, and will ultimately have one for a stove. For now, I just run a hose back to the bottles on my tanks.

If you really want 1 lb refillables, I would just buy them. One thing I am thinking of doing is using a forklift/RV type permanent propane tank mounted horizontally. On them you can get a Vapour service valve (for connection to the RV) and a Liquid Service Valve (used for forklifts or other propane burning motors). The liquid service valve could be safely used to fill these refillable bottles if you want.

Click on photo for link.
http://www.mantank.com/img/photo_1lbrefillable.jpg

Donna D. 05-14-2014 02:39 PM

I have some very good friends that almost lost their beautiful 5th wheel to a refilled 1# tank. It was "stored" in the basement of the trailer.

I'm getting the "Exterior Propane Quick Connect includes 12' Propane Hose with Adapter" on my new 5er.


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