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Donna D. 08-08-2014 02:07 PM

GM changes pickup payload formula to match competitors after complaints
 
For those that may be interested: https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motora...143039529.html

Catchlight 08-09-2014 12:33 AM

If GM or any other manufacturer would mislead the public about a safety-related issue like payload, it makes me wonder what other misinformation they have supplied, and what corners they have cut in the manufacturing process.

Rossue 08-09-2014 02:25 PM

Ford is mentioned in the article too. This is all about bragging rights for tow specs. An article published a few months ago mentioned that it will result in about a 400 lb. reduction on average. It has nothing to do with safety or misinformation. They believed they had until a model change to adopt the new standard which GM did with their 2015 models that are redesigned.

Just what is the J2807? "The Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) has sought for the past half-decade to bring clarity to the situation, and now automakers are getting on board, too. The SAE standard, “Performance Requirements for Determining Tow-Vehicle Gross Combination Weight Rating and Trailer Weight Rating,” is known as J2807, and a big piece of it is how a laden truck climbs a grade such as the Colorado River’s Davis Dam. First published in 2008, the standard was revised in September 2010. Ford, General Motors, Ram, and Toyota have agreed to adopt SAE J2807 for the 2013 model year, and Nissan will soon follow." From Car & Driver, Dec. 2011.

Ray N 08-09-2014 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rossue (Post 62149)
Ford, General Motors, Ram, and Toyota have agreed to adopt SAE J2807 for the 2013 model year, and Nissan will soon follow." From Car & Driver, Dec. 2011.

Toyota adopted J2807 in 2011.

Jubal 08-10-2014 08:19 AM

"It has nothing to do with safety or misinformation" ?? The bumper and spare tire were not offered as options when I was shopping for a truck !
Only Ford and GM used the practice of setting a published payload figure by "minimum" curb weight — a number that raises the payload figure by deleting items like spare tires or the back bumper.
Ford and GM have defended the practice, saying their customers could order trucks without those features and that they were transparent about the process.


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