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FlaGman 07-23-2016 03:10 PM

New solar for 19
 
The last few weekends I have been putting together a permanent solar setup for my 2009 Escape 19 which I recently purchased. I used two 100 watt Renogy panels mounted to the roof with AM Solar's tilt hardware and fabricated 6" x 3" pvc mounts, secured with 3m 5200 ( thanks, Klem, for the idea!).

Inside, I have Bogart Engineering SC-2030 solar charger and TM2030-RV battery monitor. I used 8 gauge cable from the roof to the solar charger. The battery is a VMaxTanks 12 volt 155 amp AGM. I replaced the original 12 volt under the front of the U shaped dinette which was in a plastic box that was very difficult to access. I modified the original vent to accommodate the new battery box(although AGMs don't require as much venting).
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I am looking forward to camping in less developed areas in the fall and winter. It is too hot right now to think about not having air conditioning!

rbryan4 07-23-2016 03:38 PM

Nice work. Do the panels tilt either way?

Patandlinda 07-23-2016 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FlaGman (Post 152954)
The last few weekends I have been putting together a permanent solar setup for my 2009 Escape 19 which I recently purchased. I used two 100 watt Renogy panels mounted to the roof with AM Solar's tilt hardware and fabricated 6" x 3" pvc mounts, secured with 3m 5200 ( thanks, Klem, for the idea!).

Inside, I have Bogart Engineering SC-2030 solar charger and TM2030-RV battery monitor. I used 8 gauge cable from the roof to the solar charger. The battery is a VMaxTanks 12 volt 155 amp AGM. I replaced the original 12 volt under the front of the U shaped dinette which was in a plastic box that was very difficult to access. I modified the original vent to accommodate the new battery box(although AGMs don't require as much venting).
http://www.escapeforum.org/attachmen...bbff1d5caf.jpg
http://www.escapeforum.org/attachmen...eff4836d9a.jpg
http://www.escapeforum.org/attachmen...191f29c231.jpg
[IMG]http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n568/garlandmeyer/54a4a4bc0ff7a9635c87e8072f7d0f4b_zpsthlyqhij.jpg[/IMG

I am looking forward to camping in less developed areas in the fall and winter. It is too hot right now to think about not having air conditioning!

Very nice work ! Can you tell me a source and name for PCV blocks ? Pat

FlaGman 07-23-2016 04:33 PM

The panels tilt either way. I purchased a pair of brackets from AM Solar but they are designed to raise the panels in the horizontal rather than vertical aspect, so are somewhat short for my needs. I will cut and lengthen these and make some new ones- they are just metal bars with holes at one end and holes with nuts welded on the other end.

I made the 3"x 6" x 1 1/2" blocks by gluing 3/4" pvc planking from Home Depot together with epoxy, then screwing from underneath. I rounded over the edges with a router, then primed and painted prior to installing. I originally planned to install with 3m VHB but ended up using the 3m 5200 which I already had on hand. It set up very quick in the near 100* temps we are having right now.

Patandlinda 07-23-2016 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FlaGman (Post 152962)
The panels tilt either way. I purchased a pair of brackets from AM Solar but they are designed to raise the panels in the horizontal rather than vertical aspect, so are somewhat short for my needs. I will cut and lengthen these and make some new ones- they are just metal bars with holes at one end and holes with nuts welded on the other end.

I made the 3"x 6" x 1 1/2" blocks by gluing 3/4" pvc planking from Home Depot together with epoxy, then screwing from underneath. I rounded over the edges with a router, then primed and painted prior to installing. I originally planned to install with 3m VHB but ended up using the 3m 5200 which I already had on hand. It set up very quick in the near 100* temps we are having right now.

Thankyou for the source and name of your blocks .Another question when you said you screwed from underneath , are you referring to making 2 3/4 blocks into one together , not screwing into your roof ? You used the 3m 5200 to attach your blocks to your roof then screwed your brackets into your blocks ? You never drilled into your roof ? Pat

tractors1 07-23-2016 05:52 PM

If you decide to rework your PVC mounts you might give some consideration to making one long mount for each side instead of two shorter pieces to have more bonding surface. Most of the blown-off solar panels reported to ETI (those were epoxied in place and the gel coat ripped off with the panel) were due to cross-winds; the raised crown on the roof allows cross winds to push upwards on the bottom of the panel.

FlaGman 07-23-2016 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Patandlinda (Post 152963)
Thankyou for the source and name of your blocks .Another question when you said you screwed from underneath , are you referring to making 2 3/4 blocks into one together , not screwing into your roof ? You used the 3m 5200 to attach your blocks to your roof then screwed your brackets into your blocks ? You never drilled into your roof ? Pat

Yes, the 3/4" pvc is glued together, and screwed from underneath prior to adhering to to roof.
With 18 square inches of surface area per corner bonded to the roof, I feel comfortable that they are not going anywhere.

Jubal 07-23-2016 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tractors1 (Post 152964)
If you decide to rework your PVC mounts you might give some consideration to making one long mount for each side instead of two shorter pieces to have more bonding surface. Most of the blown-off solar panels reported to ETI (those were epoxied in place and the gel coat ripped off with the panel) were due to cross-winds; the raised crown on the roof allows cross winds to push upwards on the bottom of the panel.

Pictures of the failed solar panel mounting installed by ETI indicate poor bonding of the epoxy to the gel coat on one side of the panel. The side of the panel that had good bonding tore the gelcoat. This was the case with the panels on our 19 escape built in 2013. Crosswinds and uplift are not the root cause of the failures.

Greg A 07-24-2016 01:43 PM

Very nice install Garland. I've been wanting to retrofit those AM Solar Tilts on to my ETI factory install and seeing your use of them it looks very doable. Really like your system.

FlaGman 07-24-2016 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg A (Post 153042)
Very nice install Garland. I've been wanting to retrofit those AM Solar Tilts on to my ETI factory install and seeing your use of them it looks very doable. Really like your system.

The hardware is a little pricey at $80 per panel, but seems to be of high quality. I was going to try to make myself but was hard to justify for just two panels. The little wire tie downs to secure the harness to the roof that they sell for $2 are worth buying as well.


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