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Art M. 09-14-2016 11:24 PM

Front box attempted burglary
 
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Somewhere along I-5, between O'Neill Regional Park and Livermore, CA, most likely at the Rest Stop at the top of the Grapevine, someone nearly broke into our front box, on Monday, Sept. 12, 2016.

They cut through the hasp, and removed the padlock on the driver's side, and were almost through the hasp on the passenger side, see photos. If this was at the top of the Grapevine, we were inside the trailer having lunch, with the door open! Kathy thought she heard something, but I didn't.

I haven't heard about the security of the front box being a problem for other Escape owners, so I'm currently thinking that I'll try to get the same hasps used on Escapes; rather than looking for a harder to break into hasp that would be unlikely to match the front box pop rivet hole pattern.

Losangeles 09-14-2016 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Art M. (Post 160458)
Somewhere along I-5, between O'Neill Regional Park and Livermore, CA, most likely at the Rest Stop at the top of the Grapevine, someone nearly broke into our front box, on Monday, Sept. 12, 2016.

They cut through the hasp, and removed the padlock on the driver's side, and were almost through the hasp on the passenger side, see photos. If this was at the top of the Grapevine, we were inside the trailer having lunch, with the door open! Kathy thought she heard something, but I didn't.

I haven't heard about the security of the front box being a problem for other Escape owners, so I'm currently thinking that I'll try to get the same hasps used on Escapes; rather than looking for a harder to break into hasp that would be unlikely to match the front box pop rivet hole pattern.

Wow - very sorry for your misfortune.

:eek:

And sorry you have to repair this.

Mary F 09-14-2016 11:40 PM

We had similar looking damage on our box's hasps, but it was no security breach.

Ours was from the box vibrating.

Have a look at the pics of ours, posted in the Vibration When Towing Our New Escape 21 thread. Alas, we lost our lock, so you'll just have to trust me that it was smaller than the one in your picture.

We do think we finally solved the problem. Haven't had any more trouble with it. (Knock on wood!)

Losangeles 09-14-2016 11:57 PM

The lock hole on the stock hasp is relatively small

Is there a very sturdy lock that actually fits the Escape hasp?

Bonus points for being a combination lock.

Yes, I know that most small-ish locks are easily defeatable by brute force.

Brian B-P 09-15-2016 12:23 AM

A "puck" style hidden-shackle lock has a concealed shackle and protects the part of the hasp which was cut, as well. This style of lock is usually used with a hasp specifically fitted to it, but should work with the common hasp as well. Unfortunately, they are big and heavy locks, and you might not find one with the shackle diameter and position to work with the original hasp; also, the shackle (pin) on a puck lock is normally vertical, not horizontal as the stock hasp configuration would place it.

Art M. 09-15-2016 01:26 AM

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The hasp is so weak, that a larger padlock would be wasted effort, unless it was the puck type that hides the hasp; but the hole in the hasp is so small that only small padlocks fit.

Actually, I prefer a weak lock. I would rather a thief attacked the lock, rather than the hasp, which is going to involve a significant effort to replace.

Like Mary F, we also had vibration issues with the front box. On ours, it was only the lid; not the whole box like Robert Bryan solved in the thread that Mary F links to. I added self adhesive rubber window seal (7/32" x 3/8" wide, or 5.5 mm x 9.5 mm wide) to the top of the aluminum L-bracket that runs around the top, at the front and sides of the box. It is EPDM rubber, good over a temperature range of -40 to 140 deg. F, and to outperform and outlast foam tapes. This solved the vibration issue on the lid. However, it has only been installed for about 3 months, and already shows significant wear, some of it probably due to sticking to the lid so I have to pull up to break it free. It has a 10 year guarantee, which I expect is honored only if you use it to seal windows.

tractors1 09-15-2016 01:33 AM

Well that just sucks. You were unlucky in a not so good stop.

Not much one can do if your camper doesn't resemble an armored car.

rbryan4 09-15-2016 03:04 AM

Thieves. Man, I hate thieves. I mean, really despise them. I have more sympathy for someone who commits a terrible crime in a fit of passion than I ever will for a thief. I dealt with many a thief back in the days when I was a cop. I don't miss it.

Sorry this happened to you. I think you're on the right track though about the hasps. Probably better, at least from an appearance standpoint, to replace them with identical ones. Unfortunately, the lock isn't the weakest link here - it's the flimsy hasp loop.

gocamp 09-15-2016 09:05 AM

Mary, you still using the towel on the brace method since april? Thanks in advance.

Like above, i've heard plenty of broad daylight crackhead stories from my Cali Highway patrol friends. I'm sorry they gave you something to now deal with Art.

Kountrykamper 09-15-2016 09:25 AM

I don't lock ours for that reason. I would rather replace a hose or tire chalk than deal with the damage of a thief. I figure if they look in ours they are going to be disappointed at what they find. Heck I don't lock the camper most of the time because I would rather they take my pots and pans than destroy my door. If they want in they are going to get in and don't care what they damage in the process.

I cant stand are a thief and have no use for them.


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