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03-01-2021, 01:56 PM
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Location: Minnetonka, Minnesota
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People whine about the "outdated" 4Runner, but it is still selling well, so why would Toyota change it? They have plenty of other more "modern" SUVs to choose from if desired.
Whereas, the Land Cruiser was selling so poorly they either had to scuttle it or remake it.
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03-01-2021, 05:22 PM
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#22
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigSwede
People whine about the "outdated" 4Runner, but it is still selling well, so why would Toyota change it?
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A fair question. Most vehicle changes are not needed for the vehicle to be functional or desirable; they are done to meet changing fashions or new regulations. More efficient and cleaner engines and transmissions are needed to meet corporate average fuel economy and emissions rules, as much as to produce better published economy numbers to attract buyers. SUVs exist to a large extent to dodge regulations which apply to normal passenger vehicles, and poor fuel economy may be more acceptable in an SUV than in a sedan.
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03-03-2021, 11:51 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Coq., British Columbia
Trailer: 2007 17b
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I tow a 200617b with a 3rd gen, 2001 4runner. Me the wife boy and 50lb mut. 2 inflatable paddleboards , two bike racks, 3bmx bikes, front tongue box and two full 20lb propane tanks, and everything else you would need to glamp with. No issues. But I take it easy up the coquihalla in 2nd. Oh and I have a tranny cooler and one up tire size.
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03-03-2021, 01:06 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Jackson, Wyoming
Trailer: 2017 Escape 17
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Have puts lots of miles past 3 years on our 2017 17B towing with a 2016 Tacoma. email me if you have questions: lloydjdorsey@gmail.com
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05-16-2021, 12:17 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Redmond, Washington
Trailer: 2015 E19'
Posts: 311
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
Yep, lots of love for dinosaurs of all kinds.
They go extinct, though, so I wouldn't bet on there being a 4Runner in a few years. SUVs are the currently fashionable thing, but the lack of any powertrain updates to this model in a decade suggest that it will either get a major generational change (think of the new Land Rover "Defender" or Mercedes G-Class versus a real Defender or G-Class)... or die.
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05-16-2021, 12:44 PM
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#26
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Cowichan Valley, British Columbia
Trailer: 2020 - 21NE "JoMoE" (Just our Means of Escape)
Posts: 313
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigSwede
People whine about the "outdated" 4Runner, but it is still selling well, so why would Toyota change it? They have plenty of other more "modern" SUVs to choose from if desired.
Whereas, the Land Cruiser was selling so poorly they either had to scuttle it or remake it.
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4Runner & Highlander have proven themselves to be viable transportation & haulers in many circumstances. And they are indeed selling well.
But everything I've been reading on Toyota's focus over the next 10 years appears to be all electric vehicles. No doubt diesel, gas & hybrid will still be around, but Toyota's development of next generation batteries will be 'fueling' the transition.
Considering the average distance travelled with the 'daily driver' world wide, I suspect Toyota's battery development will carry on it's reputation of reliable & affordable products. Here's an article on that very topic:
https://www.auto123.com/en/news/toyo...20-2030/64261/
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09-06-2023, 07:06 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Great Eggstrications
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