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07-31-2018, 02:20 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Cottonwood, Arizona
Trailer: 2019 5.0TA pulled by Ram 3500 diesel dually
Posts: 286
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5.0 TA & a big truck
I’d love to get this but do not know how compatible my truck would be. I have a full size tall bed truck due to my (mostly stationary) full time 5th wheel - unloaded the bed rails are approx 58” from the ground. It is a mostly stock, unlifted, 2016 Ram 3500 lwb crew cab 4x4 diesel dually with a rail mounted folding tonneau cover which adds another 1/2” or so. I have a B&W Companion hitch that is a bit height adjustable and the truck has automatic load leveling that can be set 1” lower.
I’ve been purusing loads of posts here and found a post where someone with 56” high rails on their truck states 6” is the clearance they get with the optional 5.0 lift kit. That is about the bare minimum clearance needed and my rails are taller.
Anyone towing the 5.0 with a similar truck?
Would larger tires on the 5.0 fit decently in the wheel wells of a lifted 5.0?
I assume the king pin setup on the 5.0 is adjustable so that might help. It might even be possible to change the king pin to one that has more height adjustment or longer reach to move the overhang back but that might result in the nose being high. Thoughts?
If you have the lift on your 5.0, what is the distance from the ground to the king pin base that rides on the hitch when the camper is sitting level? That would let me compare to my current rig.
Note - I spend half or better of my time traveling & camping in an Aframe bumper pull trailer and the 5.0 would be replacing it and could potentially replace the monster 5th wheel I now have.
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Tom W
( 5.0TA, "Gray Ghost" )
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07-31-2018, 03:08 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
Trailer: None, sold my 2014 5.0TA
Posts: 7,124
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My bed rails on my F150 HD are at 56" and have at least 6" clearance. I have the standard height trailer, have my B&W Patriot all the way down as the nose of the trailer is a little high, comes out to 16" high above the bed. I could, if needed raise the pin box one set of holes which is 2". The bed height of the truck is 34 at the tailgate, there is a bit of a slope from the tailgate to the cab so where the hitch rails are is a smidgen lower then the 34".
Don't know if the #'s help but that's all I can do for you.
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Happy Motoring
Bob
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07-31-2018, 03:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Naugatuck, Connecticut
Trailer: 2017 50 TA, 2016 F150, 2.7 Ecoboost
Posts: 1,056
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When buying our 5.0 TA I was told by ETI that up to 58” would work without a need for the raised axle option. This came in an email from Tammy.
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07-31-2018, 03:46 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Naugatuck, Connecticut
Trailer: 2017 50 TA, 2016 F150, 2.7 Ecoboost
Posts: 1,056
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We are using an Anderson Ultimate which has 3 height positions. Truck wall is 56”,trailer ride perfectly level. Don’t think I have 6” clearance but have never had an issue. Have to measure that next time out.
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07-31-2018, 03:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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I think Reace maybe the person who can answer that, he knows the limits on the 5,0 pretty good.
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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07-31-2018, 05:43 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Cottonwood, Arizona
Trailer: 2019 5.0TA pulled by Ram 3500 diesel dually
Posts: 286
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It sounds like I probably won’t have a problem with my elephant of a tow beast, especially with the high lift axle; tho only a drive to the factory with the hitch in the bed of the truck would be positive proof. Once I get all my dream rig items thought up for specific questions for the factory I’ll also address this with them.
~TomW
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Tom W
( 5.0TA, "Gray Ghost" )
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07-31-2018, 05:59 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: NA, Arizona
Trailer: 2017 5.0TA
Posts: 549
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Hi StillCampin, 56" works with a 2nd gen 5.0 TA. 58" should work nicely with the lift and still maintain adequate clearence. But I would still speak with Reace just to verify. Hope this helps
Tin.
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07-31-2018, 06:06 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Alaska, Washington
Trailer: 2014 5.0 TA
Posts: 451
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StillCampin
I’d love to get this but do not know how compatible my truck would be. I have a full size tall bed truck due to my (mostly stationary) full time 5th wheel - unloaded the bed rails are approx 58” from the ground. It is a mostly stock, unlifted, 2016 Ram 3500 lwb crew cab 4x4 diesel dually with a rail mounted folding tonneau cover which adds another 1/2” or so. I have a B&W Companion hitch that is a bit height adjustable and the truck has automatic load leveling that can be set 1” lower.
I’ve been purusing loads of posts here and found a post where someone with 56” high rails on their truck states 6” is the clearance they get with the optional 5.0 lift kit. That is about the bare minimum clearance needed and my rails are taller.
Anyone towing the 5.0 with a similar truck?
Would larger tires on the 5.0 fit decently in the wheel wells of a lifted 5.0?
I assume the king pin setup on the 5.0 is adjustable so that might help. It might even be possible to change the king pin to one that has more height adjustment or longer reach to move the overhang back but that might result in the nose being high. Thoughts?
If you have the lift on your 5.0, what is the distance from the ground to the king pin base that rides on the hitch when the camper is sitting level? That would let me compare to my current rig.
Note - I spend half or better of my time traveling & camping in an Aframe bumper pull trailer and the 5.0 would be replacing it and could potentially replace the monster 5th wheel I now have.
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We are towing with a 3500 short bed with a bed rail height of 58” and the trailer has the raised suspension. We raised the pin box one hole and the trailer is pretty level hooked up for towing. We have 7” of clearance between the box and the frame of the trailer. Have had no clearance issues, we use the BW Patriot. Scott
Bikes make me happy!
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Scott and Lori
Aurora Borealis
2014 5.0 TA
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07-31-2018, 08:07 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Naugatuck, Connecticut
Trailer: 2017 50 TA, 2016 F150, 2.7 Ecoboost
Posts: 1,056
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin
Hi StillCampin, 56" works with a 2nd gen 5.0 TA. 58" should work nicely with the lift and still maintain adequate clearence. But I would still speak with Reace just to verify. Hope this helps
Tin.
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What program are you using to generate these drawings?
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07-31-2018, 09:35 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Tehachapi, California
Trailer: none
Posts: 515
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin
Hi StillCampin, 56" works with a 2nd gen 5.0 TA. 58" should work nicely with the lift and still maintain adequate clearence. But I would still speak with Reace just to verify. Hope this helps
Tin.
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Those drawings are awesome! Hope you don't mind if I saved them on my computer for future reference?
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Greg
Formerly owned a 2007 24' HiLo/ 2003 Tahoe combo. Interested in the 5.0TA
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08-01-2018, 02:24 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Cottonwood, Arizona
Trailer: 2019 5.0TA pulled by Ram 3500 diesel dually
Posts: 286
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin
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Those drawing look like they would be nice but the forum software has blurred the text. Could you point me to the originals?
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08-02-2018, 03:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: NA, Arizona
Trailer: 2017 5.0TA
Posts: 549
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chotch
What program are you using to generate these drawings?
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Sketch up, I was just having fun with it. Auto-cad or Revit would have produced a much better and easier full scale model.
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08-02-2018, 03:17 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: NA, Arizona
Trailer: 2017 5.0TA
Posts: 549
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilola
Those drawings are awesome! Hope you don't mind if I saved them on my computer for future reference?
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No not at all, glad you liked.
Tin.
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08-02-2018, 03:20 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: NA, Arizona
Trailer: 2017 5.0TA
Posts: 549
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StillCampin
Those drawing look like they would be nice but the forum software has blurred the text. Could you point me to the originals?
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Just do a (Save-as) to your desk top. You can then have and view on your comp.
Tin.
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08-02-2018, 03:28 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Text is sharp on my MacBook Air.
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What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
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08-02-2018, 06:39 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Lanesboro, MN, between Whalan and Fountain, Minnesota
Trailer: 2016 Bigfoot 25RQ - (2018 Escape 5.0 sold)
Posts: 2,152
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Both our Acer Chromebooks show crisp drawings too.
Enjoy,
Perry
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08-02-2018, 06:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Tehachapi, California
Trailer: none
Posts: 515
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin
Just do a (Save-as) to your desk top. You can then have and view on your comp.
Tin.
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I used this method on a PC and viewed in Photo Gallery. Drawings look fine.
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Greg
Formerly owned a 2007 24' HiLo/ 2003 Tahoe combo. Interested in the 5.0TA
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08-03-2018, 02:38 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Cottonwood, Arizona
Trailer: 2019 5.0TA pulled by Ram 3500 diesel dually
Posts: 286
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin
Just do a (Save-as) to your desk top. You can then have and view on your comp.
Tin.
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I was originally viewing on my phone and could not read anything which is why I asked. I’m camping in my Aframe and my laptop is at home. But I’m now on my iPad and it is clear. - esp when I bring up the enlargement. Unfortunately, I’m new to the iPad and “save as” is no where to be found.
All is not lost, tho. I have figured out how to do a screen shot and that works just fine.
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Tom W
( 5.0TA, "Gray Ghost" )
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08-03-2018, 03:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Sherburne, New York
Trailer: 2016 21 ft escape
Posts: 400
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StillCampin
I was originally viewing on my phone and could not read anything which is why I asked. I’m camping in my Aframe and my laptop is at home. But I’m now on my iPad and it is clear. - esp when I bring up the enlargement. Unfortunately, I’m new to the iPad and “save as” is no where to be found.
All is not lost, tho. I have figured out how to do a screen shot and that works just fine.
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Drag your finger down from the top of your page, only bout a 1/4 in. Tool bar will open , on the right hand top will be a star, peck the star, a little box will open at the bottom of screen that says save in Mobil book marks, just let it save it. In Mobil book marks you can make files etc, etc.
Hope I did’nt confuse you. Hope I helped some what .
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08-03-2018, 04:51 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Cottonwood, Arizona
Trailer: 2019 5.0TA pulled by Ram 3500 diesel dually
Posts: 286
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake930
Drag your finger down from the top of your page, only bout a 1/4 in. Tool bar will open , on the right hand top will be a star, peck the star, a little box will open at the bottom of screen that says save in Mobil book marks, just let it save it. In Mobil book marks you can make files etc, etc.
Hope I did’nt confuse you.
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The steps you describe makes perfect sense but my iPad doesn’t work that way nor does it match the videos. Drag down from the top gets me schedule info. In addition, the 2 videos I watched both show only 6 icons on the lower bar - I have 8.
Thanks anyway.
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Tom W
( 5.0TA, "Gray Ghost" )
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