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Old 03-23-2023, 10:55 AM   #1
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Andersen WDH compatibility w/21C?

Do any of you know the make and model of the coupler being supplied by ETI?

I found this warning on the Andersen web site:

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Atwood Coupler Compatibility (Atwood 88007, 88010, 88555 and 88600)

When these few Atwood couplers are combined with the Andersen Weight Distribution system — and other weight distribution systems — there is a potential issue where some couplers can become unlatched over time due to wear on the internal latch system. This issue is present because of the unique design of the couplers.

To our knowledge, this potential issue ONLY affects the Atwood 88007, 88010, 88555 and 88600 couplers. All other Atwood couplers are compatible with the Andersen Weight Distribution system. Older (pre-Atwood) Marvel couplers also work great. Newer models may also encounter these issues if designed in a similar style.
I had planned to buy the Andersen WDH locally before driving ~1,200 miles to pick-up my 21C. A local hitch dealer/expert has recommended the Andersen WDH for ease of set-up and for being light weight. My tow vehicle is a 2022 F150 4Dr, 4WD with the "max trailer tow" package. My previous experiences towing a 16' Airstream with a 2019 Tacoma was, let's say, stressful.

I completely read the previous thread on the Andersen WDH, and it doesn't answer this question.

Thank you in advance for any useful information.
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Old 03-23-2023, 04:04 PM   #2
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Hello,

I have had great success with the Andersen for over 20000 miles with my 21NE. The Escape trailers do not use the Atwood.
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Old 03-23-2023, 04:48 PM   #3
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Since Atwood was swallowed by Dometic there are no more new ones available.

Escape has been using a Chinese made RAM (Atwood Knockoff) since at least 2015 and now if you search major brands such as Husky, Curt & Reese- they all look exactly like the RAM & say Made In China.

My A-frame coupler on my 2014 was damaged I believe by the Andersen within two years of use. The yoke would lift up even with the lock pin in place. I was able to get it replaced with an Atwood just before the merger with Dometic. I also ditched the Andersen as it was a PITA to use compared to the Pro Series I had with our previous 17B. Went back to the Pro Series and it takes 1/4 the time to hitch up the spring bars vs. Andersen and even more if you have to unhitch at an angle. To straighten the Sway plate that the chains are attached to you have to hitch one then move forward and to the opposite direction to get it back to zero degrees. ETI installed the Andersen and perhaps there was an error of some sort- the chains were eating through the chain guides too. Don't know how it could have been installed differently though.

With an F-150 & 21C you're unlikely to have sway issues with items in your front box, under the bed and the fact the bathroom is in the front.
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Old 03-23-2023, 04:58 PM   #4
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Steve,

Many folks, including myself, use the Andersen WDH. In my mind it is the best option out there, and its very easy to use. ETI installed it on my 21C and tow vehicle when I picked up my trailer (for a small fee).

I don't think there are any compatibility issues with the coupler, and I've never heard anyone on the forum say anything about it. That said, one modification I made to my trailer within the first year was cut off the Atwood and had a welder weld on a straight coupler (I have a curt, there is also bulldog). Absolutely night and day in terms of security and easy of hookup. There is a decent amount of info on this forum about that mod.

If I could make any suggestion to a new ETI owner, it would be to get the Andersen WDH and replace the Atwood with a straight coupler. Awesome combo.
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I replaced the ETI coupler with a Bulldog. No more binding, easy to hook up and release at any angle, and impossible to create a false latch-up (been there done that) that causes the trailer to break loose. I love the Andersen hitch, by the way.
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I replaced the ETI coupler with a Bulldog. No more binding, easy to hook up and release at any angle, and impossible to create a false latch-up (been there done that) that causes the trailer to break loose. I love the Andersen hitch, by the way.
So you still use the Andersen with the Bulldog?
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So you still use the Andersen with the Bulldog?
Yes, the Bulldog has no WDH function, it's just a coupler.
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Old 03-24-2023, 03:50 PM   #8
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Thanks rjetre , Rossue, mstruzz , and tractors1!

ETI told me this morning that they supply a Braber coupler.

I just picked up the Andersen hitch locally in preparation for my trip to bring home the trailer.
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Old 06-01-2024, 12:42 PM   #9
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2024 21C Trailer Coupler binding

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I replaced the ETI coupler with a Bulldog. No more binding, easy to hook up and release at any angle, and impossible to create a false latch-up (been there done that) that causes the trailer to break loose. I love the Andersen hitch, by the way.
I thought it was just me but apparently not. The supplied coupler is terrible. It binds almost every time I try to unhitch. Then I cannot release it and it holds on till the car is far to high... Any other options other than replacing the coupler?
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Old 06-01-2024, 12:59 PM   #10
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My Sept ‘21 built Escape does use the Braber. You do have to make sure the ball is all the way forward in the coupler to hitch and unhitch. Someday I may replace it, but it does work as long as you get the ball forward in the coupler.
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Old 06-01-2024, 01:14 PM   #11
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I thought it was just me but apparently not. The supplied coupler is terrible. It binds almost every time I try to unhitch. Then I cannot release it and it holds on till the car is far to high... Any other options other than replacing the coupler?
I know the feeling and had similar experiences.

Now we follow the logic of the hitch and position the ball as such.

First we level the trailer and block the it's wheels, once that is done it a simple matter of having the ball in a position so it can drop out. Usually it means just backing up an inch so the ball's curve is no longer in the hitches curve. Often putting the vehicle in neutral will let it roll to that spot. It's one extra step but works every time and never requires forcing anything. Look up into the hitch and see how the ball gets lock in so you understand how works and where you need the ball to be for it to drop out. Anytime it doesn't you just need to move the ball a little forward or back.
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