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04-16-2014, 05:28 PM
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So there you have it, Alf. Another practical application, yes definitely worth a pat on the head.
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04-16-2014, 05:44 PM
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#62
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: San Luis Obispo, California
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Originally Posted by escape artist
That's what the "Cow patties" are there for
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Thanks, I gotta lighten up!
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04-16-2014, 08:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyronL
Yes, X-chocks. Is that what this is? I call 'em wheel wedges.
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Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Yes, X-chocks is a name brand.
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Although X-Chock is a brand name, and they have the same function as the wedge design shown, the X-Chocks are built somewhat differently and have an X shape (thus the name).
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04-16-2014, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MyronL
We shall see how these homeboy levelers do. Glued-up 2x8's then coated with resin. Was going to cut the same profile curve as them store-boughts but then thought.... is that curve really necessary?
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It depends on how you want them to work. If you just want ramps, they don't need any curves. The Andersen levelers are not just ramps, since the main part rotates (or rocks) with the tire (unlike a stationary ramp) and is wedged in place with the chock part, leaving the tire in a cradle instead of on a flat sloped surface: that requires a curve on at least the bottom side.
Ramps can also be done in stages (such as steps, each the thickness of your lumber) - in this case the tire ends up on a level (not sloped) surface, but you can only adjust height in those height steps.
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04-16-2014, 09:16 PM
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With both designs a chock is required, although each curved Anderson ramp requires its own chock whereas the Myron ramps only need to be chocked once, at the front or leading wheel. This results in a savings of one chock.
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04-19-2014, 07:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyronL
Yes, X-chocks. Is that what this is? I call 'em wheel wedges.
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Myron,
I like what you've done with these wedges. I saw the caption in your album that said you used 4x4s. Is the angle critical? Looks to be about 30 degrees eyeballing. And how long is the threaded rod? Thanks.
Glenn
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04-19-2014, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by abby
Myron,
I like what you've done with these wedges. I saw the caption in your album that said you used 4x4s. Is the angle critical? Looks to be about 30 degrees eyeballing. And how long is the threaded rod? Thanks.
Glenn
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There was a previous discussion in this forum regarding the home built chocks. I believe that dimensions were also discussed. http://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f8...html#post28149
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04-19-2014, 10:03 AM
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Ah, wood. What would we do without it?
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04-19-2014, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ice-breaker
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Thanks Dave.
Glenn
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04-30-2014, 08:49 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Auburn, Washington
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Modified Anderson Levelers update
I tried using my modified Anderson Levelers this last weekend at the Spring NOG (see post #1) and was unsuccessful. I was parked on wet, fairly level pavement, so I only had to lift my 21 a small amount. I placed one leveler behind each tire on the drivers side and slowly backed up. The rear tire started up the leveler just fine. The leveler between the tires slipped, wedging itself between the tires. I couldn't move forward or backwards. I had to knock it out using the blunt end of an ax. I tried a second time with the same results and ended up using the old standards. The plastic blocks I used between the tires also moved, but nothing got jammed between the tires so I was able to finish the job. I'm now deciding what to do about the Andersons. Granted, the pavement was slippery, and anyone who owns the Andersons knows that they're also slippery, but getting wedged between the tires is unacceptable. I may try sticking some of that sticky-backed sandpaper (used on steps) to the bottom of the wedges but I'm not sure it will stick. I may change the slope of the ramps, or maybe I'll have to shorten one of the ramps. Anyone else have this problem? Any ideas?
Thanks, Tom
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04-30-2014, 08:54 AM
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Tom, slippery sites is a MAJOR concern for those that camp in the Pacific NorthWET. Dang moss anyway. Wood used for leveling can be just as bad, because wood gets slimy and slippery. Sure hope folks can figure out an easy and effective solution. I'm still hoping, hoping, hoping the two BAL levelers I now have will work with my new 5er.
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04-30-2014, 09:05 AM
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Donna, I'm leaning towards changing the slope of the ramp along with making the bottom less prone to slipping.
I had a great time at the Spring NOG. I met a lot of nice people whom I hope to see again. You, by the way, did a great job putting it all together. See you at future gatherings. (NICE NEW PICKUP)
Tom
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04-30-2014, 09:29 AM
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Hi: TAfraser... Now you've modded the Anderson's why not use a wood rasp or grinder, to make the bottoms rough?? Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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04-30-2014, 10:32 AM
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Location: Auburn, Washington
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Good idea Alf. I"ll look into that also.
Tom
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04-30-2014, 11:38 AM
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Wetaskiwin, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TAfraser
I tried using my modified Anderson Levelers this last weekend at the Spring NOG (see post #1) and was unsuccessful. I was parked on wet, fairly level pavement, so I only had to lift my 21 a small amount. I placed one leveler behind each tire on the drivers side and slowly backed up. The rear tire started up the leveler just fine. The leveler between the tires slipped, wedging itself between the tires. I couldn't move forward or backwards. I had to knock it out using the blunt end of an ax. I tried a second time with the same results and ended up using the old standards. The plastic blocks I used between the tires also moved, but nothing got jammed between the tires so I was able to finish the job. I'm now deciding what to do about the Andersons. Granted, the pavement was slippery, and anyone who owns the Andersons knows that they're also slippery, but getting wedged between the tires is unacceptable. I may try sticking some of that sticky-backed sandpaper (used on steps) to the bottom of the wedges but I'm not sure it will stick. I may change the slope of the ramps, or maybe I'll have to shorten one of the ramps. Anyone else have this problem? Any ideas?
Thanks, Tom
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Had a somewhat similar experience a couple weeks ago on the first trip with our new 21'. Was camped in a WalMart parking lot near the edge of the lot where it wasn't level. Levelled the trailer fine with the Andersen levellers. I intended to leave the trailer hitched up to the tow vehicle for a quick getaway in the morning, but didn't like how much the rear of my TV was being lifted off the ground, so decided to unhitch the trailer for the night. In the morning I got the coupler on the ball but was having a tough time getting the latch closed on the coupler (is that the correct terminology?). I tried pulling the trailer forward a bit, backing it a bit and after awhile of rocking it back and forth, finally managed to get the coupler properly attached. At this point I went to remove the levellers and discovered that the one between the wheels had jammed just like you described.
At this point I was quite miffed as it looked to be jammed in very tightly, but moving the trailer a little loosened it up enough to simply pull the leveller out and away we went. I think in the future if I have problems with the coupler, I'll get all the levellers out first before rocking the trailer back and forth.
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04-30-2014, 12:11 PM
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I think in the future if I have problems with the coupler, I'll get all the levellers out first before rocking the trailer back and forth.
That may be hard to do because you have to first hitch the trailer and in doing so you may have to rock back and forth to have the hitch lock on the ball. A "Catch 22" situation. Perhaps just using the flat plastic levelers on hard surfaces vs the Andersen maybe the solution. Save them for the porous surfaces.
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04-30-2014, 05:39 PM
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#77
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This idea might help with the rocking.
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07-22-2014, 01:46 PM
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Site Team
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DANG! I meant to take a picture at the Oregon Gathering of the two BAL levelers on the drivers side tires of Ten Forward. Boy was Ten Forward easy to level. It wasn't off much, I tried driving up on two Lego blocks first... with about ten people standing there watching me! Not enough lift for that side. Shoved the BALs undernearth the tires, racket, rachet, rachet (evenly) and LEVEL. The tires weren't off the ground. Just enough to level. I think I'm gonna love this system. One worked well on the Scamp, two are going to work on Ten Forward. Cool beans!
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07-22-2014, 02:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
DANG! I meant to take a picture at the Oregon Gathering....
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I'm sorry Donna, you lost me after that.
Still waiting for pics girl!
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07-22-2014, 02:21 PM
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Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rbryan4
Still waiting for pics girl!
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I know... sigh. I didn't take one picture of the inside while camping and now it looks like a bomb went off inside, Oregon Gathering stuff everywhere on the floor, etc. I have to go over and clean 'er up on the weekend. I'll take pictures then and post... PROMISE!
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