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Old 07-23-2014, 04:00 PM   #1
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Clip on mirrors necessary ?

Comments on another thread has us wondering:

We will be towing a 17b with our 2012 Nissan Frontier King Cab.
Should we be ordering clip on mirrors ahead of our towing lesson with Valley Driving School?

17b width is 6'8" or 80".
Nissan spec book says 72.8" but that doesn't seem to include the mirrors? We actually measured the truck width and including mirrors get 84" width.

Any advice/suggestions?

What kind of clip on mirror system has been working for people?


The Fit System 3891 Deluxe Universal Clip-on Trailer Towing Mirrors System got favour able mention on this forum today.

Thanks for any comments

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Old 07-23-2014, 04:11 PM   #2
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We had clip on mirrors similar to the one you describe and did not like them because they were difficult to adjust, noisy and unstable while driving, and had to be readjusted every time we took them off.

We replaced them with Grand Aero Towing Mirrors which are easy to adjust, quiet and don't need to be adjusted every time you take them off. These mirrors are highly rated. They are not cheap, but worth the money. We bought ours from Amazon.com.

These mirrors are made by Milenco in the UK. More information from their website: http://www.milenco.com/products/mirr...towing-mirror/
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Old 07-23-2014, 04:41 PM   #3
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Ditto on the Milenco Grand Aero.
I used Tow 'n' See mirrors, but they've been retired.
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Old 07-23-2014, 04:42 PM   #4
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We use these and are happy with them:
http://www.costco.com/JR-Products-Ae...100103655.html
There is a little vibration, but we find the mirrors to be invaluable and can see so much more when driving and backing up. They're easy to install and once adjusted, you just put them on and off by hand tightening a couple of screws.
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Those are Milenco Grand Aero mirrors under a different name. They make a couple styles. I have their original mirrors, not the tear-drops shown on that Costco site.
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Larry, the rule of the road in most provinces and states, is that you have to be able to see into the lane you are in a couple hundred feet back, on both sides. If you can't you need to add mirrors.

I too bought the Milenco mirrors a couple years ago. Much better than the strap on ones I had.
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Old 07-23-2014, 06:10 PM   #7
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Aero Mirrors

Based on comments from this site I purchased the Aero Mirrors and have been very satisfied with them. I made a mistake and ordered the Aero Mirror instead of the Grand Aero, so mine a a bit smaller than the Grand Aero but they have still worked well and are easy to put on and take off. I purchased mine on sale from Amazon.com
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Those are Milenco Grand Aero mirrors under a different name. They make a couple styles. I have their original mirrors, not the tear-drops shown on that Costco site.
The teardrop ones are called "Milenco Aero 2" on their website. Milenco makes several different styles.
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Add our Bump to the GRAND AERO. they have worked well for us.
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Thanks for these responses. So it looks like we are buying more stuff.

It looks like we'll go with Milenco mirrors rather then buying cheaper and then buying again.

Next question if I may. What are the benefits/differences between Teardrop (Aero 2) or Grand Aero mirrors . The teardrop are smaller the Grand are bigger. I'm inclined to go bigger but have no real basis in making a decision.

Liz thinks the Teardrop have a sleeker mounting design.

Costco.ca is offering both on its website
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I hate to differ, but we do not use extensions on our mirrors, and feel no need to do so! That is one thing I love about the 17B, we are light, can pull a U-turn in a residential neighbourhood (when we are lost!), and have no need for mirror extensions.
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Dave I'm glad to hear your differing opinion.
Can u post the width of your tug?
Do you think you are legal as per post #6 on this thread.

Ours widths are this:
17b width is 6'8" or 80".
Our Nissan spec book says 72.8" but that doesn't seem to include the mirrors? We actually measured the truck width and including mirrors get 84" width.
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I hate to differ, but we do not use extensions on our mirrors, and feel no need to do so! That is one thing I love about the 17B, we are light, can pull a U-turn in a residential neighbourhood (when we are lost!), and have no need for mirror extensions.
You might want to check out this reference:
Trailer Mirrors | AAA/CAA Digest of Motor Laws

For example in California:
A motor vehicle towing a vehicle or trailer must be equipped with mirrors on both the left and right side which provide a view of at least 200 feet of the highway.
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I too have a Frontier we use to pull our 19'. I bought the Grand Aero mirrors and they worked everyone well. I then learned through Alf's post about the aftermarket towing mirrors sold by A1 Auto that extend/collapse and are also remote-controlled & heated (if you have that option) with the added bonus of smaller, parobolic mirrors on the bottom of both sides. This greatly enhances your rear view. Far superior to the Aero's and don't need to be taken on and off. One caution to the Aeros: they can be removed in about 5 seconds; I was always concerned about theft.
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Thanks Zardoz, this looks interesting. Things are getting complicated and more expensive by the minute! I found their website, did a search and found this: Search Results for mirror pair - 1A Auto

I'm experiencing sticker price shock . My son-in-law is a licensed mechanic ..... he could do the install.... too many expensive options.

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I think those replacement mirrors are an excellent option for trailering mirrors. I just wish they made them for my Pilot.
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For other interested newbies the same issue is being discussed on the Fiberglass RV forum

Mirrors - Fiberglass RV

On that thread people are talking about wireless rear mounted cameras on the trailer to see people doing fast lane changes on you. One more item to ponder..... But I'm going to wait on cameras until we get a few miles/trips under our belts.
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Larry,
As I noted on Alf's original thread, the enhanced field of vision provided by the convex (not "parabolic" as stated in my earlier post) GREATLY enhances your everyday driving. More importantly, it aids a lot when backing up, especially in parking lots. I can't wait until all vehicles are required to have backup cameras. The installation on each side is two nuts and a single plug after removing the door panel. Search for Alf's original thread; he provided me with invaluable assistance helping me get them on. And "yes," they are pricey. But nobody wants to compromise on safety.
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My Jeep Wrangler is so narrow that I couldn't see down either side of the trailer with the stock mirrors. I spaced out the factory mirrors with some 2" cocobolo spacers. The view improved, but I can only see down one side at a time depending which direction the tug is steered. This happens when backing up. On the highway the view of the adjacent lanes is not too bad. I will need to think of a wider mirror set up. Jeep mirrors need to fold back flat when 4 wheeling in narrow ravines. Extensions could be removed for wheeling, so may be the best solution.
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Larry,
As I noted on Alf's original thread, the enhanced field of vision provided by the convex (not "parabolic" as stated in my earlier post) GREATLY enhances your everyday driving. More importantly, it aids a lot when backing up, especially in parking lots. I can't wait until all vehicles are required to have backup cameras. The installation on each side is two nuts and a single plug after removing the door panel. Search for Alf's original thread; he provided me with invaluable assistance helping me get them on. And "yes," they are pricey. But nobody wants to compromise on safety.
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The only problem with this is if you want to add a back up camera to your trailer. I've found mine handy, and if my tow vehicle had a built in camera system, since it doesn't have a second input, you still need to add another monitor for the trailer.

I have a Rear View Safety system that uses up to 3 cameras, with a push button on the monitor to switch between them.
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