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Old 01-20-2020, 08:56 AM   #1
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Escapees SmartWeigh result

Just after leaving the Xscapers Bash in Lake Havasu, AZ, and dry, solar-only camping for 8 days, we stopped by North Ranch, Congress AZ, for an Escapees SmartWeigh. This describes our rig:

Tow Vehicle: 2017 Infiniti QX80 Limited, GVWR = 7400 lbs., GCWR = 14480, GAWR Front = 3616, GAWR Rear = 4343, Towing capacity = 8500, Max tongue weight = 850; Tires Michelin Premier LTX 275/50R22 Load Range SL 2403 @ 35 psi

Trailer: 2019 Escape 19’ (May 2019 delivery), GVWR = 5000, GAWR Front = 3500, GAWR Rear = 3500 (from axle labels), Rainier ST 205/74R15 Load Range “D” 2150; weighed with full potable tank and empty back & gray tanks, two 30 lb. aluminum propane L = ½, R = full, 2 Lifeline GPL-4CT batteries, 7 gal bottled water plus normal personal items & food; Hitch: Hensley Cub

Our SmartWeigh results are:

Tow vehicle without trailer with two passengers, beagle, personal belongings, tools, etc.:
LF = 1625, RF = 1600, LR = 1600, RR = 1600

Weights with same tow plus trailer:
Tow: LF = 1600, RF = 1650, LR = 1900, RR = 1900
Trailer: LF = 975, RF = 1075, LR = 1075, RR = 1000
Derived tongue weight: 625 with Hensley jacks set to top of three marks
Trailer overall height = 9' 4"

In summary, our tow is 77% GCWR, 85% tow rear axle rating, and has 13% tongue weight, all in the safe range. To stay below 5000, we must watch out for weight creep by minimizing and removing seldom used trailer contents. We always try to travel with empty black and gray tanks.

Hope this provides some useful information for similar Escape 19’ owners. Thanks to George and assistants at North Ranch. Highly recommend every Escape owner periodically get an Escapees SmartWeigh. Knowledge is safety!

73/gus
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Old 01-20-2020, 10:46 AM   #2
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Did you weigh the trailer unhooked as I see a derived tongue weight vs actual....
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Did you weigh the trailer unhooked as I see a derived tongue weight vs actual....
Not during SmartWeigh. We measured tongue weight June 2019 using a Sherline Scale = about 500 lbs. We did an overall weight using a CAT scale on 07/20/2019 hitched, tow = 7120, trailer = 4200.

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Old 01-21-2020, 01:25 PM   #4
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Excellent info - thanks for sharing it.
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Tow vehicle without trailer with two passengers, beagle, personal belongings, tools, etc.:
LF = 1625, RF = 1600, LR = 1600, RR = 1600

Weights with same tow plus trailer:
Tow: LF = 1600, RF = 1650, LR = 1900, RR = 1900
Trailer: LF = 975, RF = 1075, LR = 1075, RR = 1000
Derived tongue weight: 625 with Hensley jacks set to top of three marks...
You don't actually have a tongue weight, and can't calculate the force of the coupler down on the ball with the WD engaged from just the scale readings.

The tow vehicle by itself has a gross weight of 6,425 pounds. The whole rig has a gross weight of 11,175 pounds, so the trailer's gross weight is 4750. The total trailer axle load with the WD engaged is 4125, and that is more than the axle load without WD, so the tongue weight must be at least the difference of 625 pounds (shown as "derived tongue weight")... but it could be much more.

The WD system is restoring the tug's front axle load to approximately that same as it is without the trailer, which is generally about what the WD manufacturers' instructions advice, so it is set properly. Without scale readings with the trailer and without WD applied, there's no way to know how much load the WD system is redistributing.
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