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Old 03-23-2021, 03:49 PM   #21
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Dlakeman and ChuckBC: I have an Expedition with the same system and an 2020 21C with the Fastway E2 and can’t get the backup assist setup to work. Is measurement A the distance from the bumper to the center of the ball horizontally or vertically? I read it as horizontal and my measurement is 14” with the maximum allowed in the system being 11”. Your solution seems that you raised the sticker vertically up off of the A frame of the trailer which would mean that measurement A is actually the vertical distance from bumper to ball. Am I measuring incorrectly and can you give me any more details about how you got the system to work for you?
The measurement is horizontal from license plate to ball. You can check Ford youtube on set up of device.

Dlakeman are you getting the horizontal or diagonal? Is your stinger exceptionally long to possibly avoid tailgate on jack conflict? Do you need it this long?
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Old 03-23-2021, 04:08 PM   #22
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I'm measuring the horizontal distance from the license plate to the center of the ball. I received the E2 with my 21C setup from ETI when I sent them the distance from bottom of hitch receiver to ground on my F-150. Since this is my first trailer I don't know if my stinger is exceptionally long. There's only one hole in the stinger for the hitch pin so I can't slide the stinger into the hitch receiver farther. When learning how to back up, and with my wife as a spotter, on a tight driver's side turn she allowed the forward cargo container to hit my bumper so I wouldn't want to shorten the stinger. I'm thinking about moving the sticker forward on a plate attached to the jack tube. I have a plate to the side now because I had to raise the sticker off the A-frame so the backup camera could "see" it. I believe the truck's computer is doing some type of triangulation computation from the measurements. I just need to find the correct combination. I'll watch the YouTube videos again.
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Old 03-25-2021, 12:44 PM   #23
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The "A" measurement on my 2020 F-150 is the horizontal distance from the license plate to the center of the ball. The max the F-150 allows is 17". The E2 sets my ball at 18" from the license plate, therefore the backup assist won't work for me. As my friends have told me, you'd better learn how to back up without any assistance from your F-150, and I have!
Did you have to purchase a hitch extension from Escape for your F150?
It's a heavy L shaped piece of iron they add if your hitch is too high on the f150 for the standard Hitch the E2 comes with. If so it might have made your license plate further away from the ball.
With mine it worked with the standard hitch.
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Old 03-25-2021, 01:03 PM   #24
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Did you have to purchase a hitch extension from Escape for your F150?
It's a heavy L shaped piece of iron they add if your hitch is too high on the f150 for the standard Hitch the E2 comes with. If so it might have made your license plate further away from the ball.
With mine it worked with the standard hitch.
Yes I had to purchase the separate stinger/extension from ETI because of the distance between the bottom of my F-150 hitch receiver and the ground. It did move the ball farther away from the license plate.
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Old 03-26-2021, 01:45 PM   #25
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Did you have to purchase a hitch extension from Escape for your F150?
It's a heavy L shaped piece of iron they add if your hitch is too high on the f150 for the standard Hitch the E2 comes with. If so it might have made your license plate further away from the ball.
That makes sense... but it's not an extension, it is a shank of a different size.

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Yes I had to purchase the separate stinger/extension from ETI because of the distance between the bottom of my F-150 hitch receiver and the ground. It did move the ball farther away from the license plate.
All of the genuine Fastway e2 shanks (for trunnion hitches and for round bar hitches, but there's no reason for them to be different) are shown by Fastway as having the same length (12 inches). It seems likely that Escape provided a shank from some other manufacturer (perhaps to get more drop?), which is excessively long.

An additional hole can be drilled (and the shank end cut shorter if necessary) to shift the shank forward, as long as none of the parts interfere. The most likely interference is one of the gussets on the shank hitting the receiver at the bottom or top of the opening.

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There's only one hole in the stinger for the hitch pin so I can't slide the stinger into the hitch receiver farther. When learning how to back up, and with my wife as a spotter, on a tight driver's side turn she allowed the forward cargo container to hit my bumper so I wouldn't want to shorten the stinger.
It doesn't matter how far you extend the hitch, it's still possible to jackknife the rig (hitting trailer parts on the bumper) in reverse. As long as nothing hits in the tightest possible forward turn, the shank is long enough.
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Old 03-26-2021, 02:05 PM   #26
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I'm not near my trailer, however the shank to which you linked looks like mine. I don't want to drill holes, etc. I'm fine with backing up my trailer without the Backup Assist. I need the practice anyway. Thanks for thinking of me though!
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Old 05-18-2021, 12:38 PM   #27
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My setup and works well on my E19 frame.
ChuckBC, What are the measurements of the aluminum piece you added to mount the sticker? I have a 21C will that make any difference? Thanks!
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