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04-24-2021, 07:30 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Worcester, Massachusetts
Trailer: NE21
Posts: 15
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How level when towing?
With my 21NE and Ford Ranger with Andersen WDH, the trailer is 1/2 to 3/4 in nose down measuring from the belly band at the rear and front of the trailer. Is this level enough? With the Andersen stinger, I could raise the hitch 1.5 in, making it 1 in to 3/4 in nose high. I am looking not to have too much stress to the front axle. Thoughts?
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04-24-2021, 08:07 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Friendswood, Texas
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19' (sold), Escape 5.0 as of August 2019 (sold)
Posts: 664
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I always set my 19 slightly nose down. 1/2 to 3/4 inch nose down is about right.
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04-24-2021, 08:26 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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The movement while trailering makes any adjustment moot as it is only critical for the refer while in "propane" mode....close enough to level is my goal.
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04-24-2021, 10:03 AM
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Quincy, Alabama
Trailer: Still Deciding
Posts: 48
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Slightly nose down is correct
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04-24-2021, 01:39 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rjetre@charter.net
With my 21NE and Ford Ranger with Andersen WDH, the trailer is 1/2 to 3/4 in nose down measuring from the belly band at the rear and front of the trailer. Is this level enough?
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That's more than close enough.
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Originally Posted by rjetre@charter.net
With the Andersen stinger, I could raise the hitch 1.5 in, making it 1 in to 3/4 in nose high. I am looking not to have too much stress to the front axle. Thoughts?
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The amount of tilt won't be a durability problem for the axles.
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Originally Posted by JStelly
I always set my 19 slightly nose down. 1/2 to 3/4 inch nose down is about right.
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Originally Posted by Ret.LEO
Slightly nose down is correct
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Slightly nose-down is right for a single-axle trailer, but for a tandem-axle trailer (especially tandems without suspension equalization, which means trailer with Torflex suspension) for stability slightly nose-up would be better.
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04-24-2021, 02:00 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mid Left Coast, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21
Posts: 5,155
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The problem with towing 'nose up' is that that is rear bumper down, and increases the probability of scraping hard parts when going over a dip or driveway ramp.
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04-24-2021, 02:08 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
The problem with towing 'nose up' is that that is rear bumper down, and increases the probability of scraping hard parts when going over a dip or driveway ramp.
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Sure, but I hope we're talking about small differences, with any axle configuration. With the tongue lower, there's more risk of dragging the jack foot over humps... there's no winning if trying to fix a lack of clearance by tilting the trailer.
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04-24-2021, 03:08 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Worcester, Massachusetts
Trailer: NE21
Posts: 15
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Sounds like I am probably close enough with the 12/-3/4 in nose down....
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04-24-2021, 04:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rjetre@charter.net
Sounds like I am probably close enough with the 12/-3/4 in nose down....
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Are you saying you are 12+ inches off level?
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04-24-2021, 07:14 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Worcester, Massachusetts
Trailer: NE21
Posts: 15
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NO! My mistake. 1/2 to 3/4 nose down over 20 ft.
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04-24-2021, 08:15 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Naples, New York
Trailer: 2020 Esacpe 19'(Hillbilly Heaven) ETI best named trailer of the year
Posts: 1,204
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I can never find a place level to even check. I think i have to do it next time I am on a scale.
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04-25-2021, 09:33 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,038
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Close... but no cigar.
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Originally Posted by rjetre@charter.net
NO! My mistake. 1/2 to 3/4 nose down over 20 ft.
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04-25-2021, 12:52 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Cold Spring, Kentucky
Trailer: 2022 21C + 2021 F-150 PowerBoost 4x4
Posts: 564
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rjetre@charter.net
With my 21NE and Ford Ranger with Andersen WDH, the trailer is 1/2 to 3/4 in nose down measuring from the belly band at the rear and front of the trailer. Is this level enough? With the Andersen stinger, I could raise the hitch 1.5 in, making it 1 in to 3/4 in nose high. I am looking not to have too much stress to the front axle. Thoughts?
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We’re in line for our Escape trailer in 12-18 months. We’re leaning toward the 21NE, and we’re thinking about the Ford Ranger as a potential tow vehicle. Could you please give us your thoughts on how the Ranger handles towing the 21NE? Any payload concerns? Thanks.
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04-25-2021, 05:36 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Juneau, Alaska
Trailer: 2015 17A - Ready for more Maiden Voyages ....
Posts: 881
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NEWYORKHILLBILLY
I can never find a place level to even check. I think i have to do it next time I am on a scale.
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I check mine by putting a short bubble level inside on the floor inside my trailer. I'd think that cabinets, counters and appliances are set during construction when floor is level. Other wise, many gas station slabs in front of the pumps are level (not all) - check these with a bubble level too. Scales? .... good idea!
Tom
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04-25-2021, 05:58 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Worcester, Massachusetts
Trailer: NE21
Posts: 15
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Hi YakRV,
Our experience with the Ranger has been very positive so far. Picked the trailer up in Denver in February, drove to Santa Fe ( with some strong winds on the prairies of southern CO). Then to Massachusetts. the Ranger towed the 21NE very well through mountain passes and at highway speeds (probably too fast!) without trouble the turbo keeps the engine rpms down. No concerns re payload as the Ranger is rated at 7500#. Tongue weight of 750#. The trailer does not come close to those limits. Averaging around 70 mph we averaged about 12 mpg. Recently with a trip to MD, 800 miles at slower east coast speeds we averaged 16 mpg. I think that an F150 would probably give that feeling of "not knowing the trailer is back there", but the Ranger has plenty of power to pull the trailer with approx. 2000 rpm at 65 mph. We are pleased with the Andersen WDH and the Ranger. The trailer and truck feel like one unit in the wind. The Ranger's rear shocks are tuned very soft (this is true with and with out the trailer), so we are considering a rear shock replacement to stiffen up the rear end.
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04-25-2021, 10:03 PM
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#16
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Cold Spring, Kentucky
Trailer: 2022 21C + 2021 F-150 PowerBoost 4x4
Posts: 564
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Thank you very much RJETRE. Very good to know. We’re trying to decide between the Ranger and F150 and this helps a lot.
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