I see a new tow vehicle in my future, perhaps?

[cpaharley2008]

https://www.jeep.com/wrangler/rubicon-392.html

Let' s see it combines the functionality of my 5.7 Hemi truck for towing and the speed of my 5.0 Mustang GT for driving around town....2 vehicles in one? What a beast though......

[JeffreyG]

I must really not be the target audience for this thing, but a Jeep just seems like the last thing I'd want to try and turn into a muscle car. I find the concept confusing.

There's no call for 470 hp on a trail. And the vehicle dynamics of a short wheelbase, high cg, and then then numb and vague steering of every Jeep ever.......is not the place I want to be driving fast and aggressive on pavement.

I know Jeep mostly created this thing as a shiny distraction given the Bronco release, but it sure is a weird (and $70,000) critter.


Maybe they should offer 22" rims and 40 series tires with it.

[cpaharley2008]

Just imagine 4 wheel burnouts......

[escape artist]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

https://www.jeep.com/wrangler/rubicon-392.html

Let' s see it combines the functionality of my 5.7 Hemi truck for towing and the speed of my 5.0 Mustang GT for driving around town....2 vehicles in one? What a beast though......

Hi: cpaharley2008... I see no towing in my future!!!
Remember the Dodge Dakota RT debacle Eh? Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

[Upfisk]

0-60 in 4.5 seconds? I am not even sure my BMW R1200RT will do that. What is it's tow rating?

[JeffreyG]

Originally Posted by Upfisk

0-60 in 4.5 seconds? I am not even sure my BMW R1200RT will do that. What is it's tow rating?

Probably 3500 lbs, same as all Jeeps. They are short and have squishy suspensions. Power is not what sets a Jeep tow limit.

[Centex]

Originally Posted by JeffreyG

I must really not be the target audience for this thing, but a Jeep just seems like the last thing I'd want to try and turn into a muscle car. I find the concept confusing.

Methinks there's a 'kid at heart' factor missing in your personal equation.

No worries, like many things it's not for everyone, and like many things, there may be a bit of a disconnect between 'rational / practical' and 'fun'

There's a long tradition of turning 'vehicles that shouldn't be muscle cars' into just that or some semblance thereof (see "hot rod", "sleeper", etc.) usually without regard for practicality. Some manufacturers jumped on that niche market a long time ago, and though not for me I'm happy to see Jeep (and a few others) continuing that hydrocarbon-fueled tradition in spite of all the rational pressures for minimizing one's carbon footprint. Methinks it'll be a thing of the past in relatively short order.

[Micheal K]

Originally Posted by JeffreyG

... And the vehicle dynamics of a short wheelbase, high cg, and then then numb and vague steering of every Jeep ever.......is not the place I want to be driving fast and aggressive on pavement.

My jeep resembles your comments.
Just wait, if the FCA pattern holds, the hellcat engine will be next.

[escape artist]

Originally Posted by Micheal K

My jeep resembles your comments.
Just wait, if the FCA pattern holds, the hellcat engine will be next.

Hi: Micheal K... I believe it's the (Hellcat) engine that's slated for the Ram 1500. Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

[Radar1]

I thought the Jeep Gladiator was going to be the perfect all-around vehicle for me. Pickup truck, Jeep, 4WD, extra passenger seating, and great tow rating all rolled into one. Then I saw the price tag!

[Chotch]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

Just imagine 4 wheel burnouts......

Ok, the burnouts sound like fun, as I’ve shredded my share of tires, but at the cost of tires and now my earning days are over.....not so sure. Just a bit curious as to things like wind and tire noise as every CJ style Jeep I ever drove or rode in had an abundance of both. The aerodynamics of a brick I think contribute to that. Not a problem when tearing up the trails or smoking the the local drag strip, it gets tiresome after a long day of towing. I’d get a kick out driving some one else’s though😎

[escape artist]

Originally Posted by Chotch

Ok, the burnouts sound like fun, as I’ve shredded my share of tires, but at the cost of tires and now my earning days are over.....not so sure. Just a bit curious as to things like wind and tire noise as every CJ style Jeep I ever drove or rode in had an abundance of both. The aerodynamics of a brick I think contribute to that. Not a problem when tearing up the trails or smoking the the local drag strip, it gets tiresome after a long day of towing. I’d get a kick out driving some one else’s though😎

Hi: Chotch... Yea!!! 5 min. of fun. That's enough!!! Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

[Centex]

Originally Posted by Chotch

..... I’d get a kick out driving some one else’s though😎

This

[oldwave]

Originally Posted by Upfisk

0-60 in 4.5 seconds? I am not even sure my BMW R1200RT will do that. What is it's tow rating?

My k1200 gt will though

[Tom&Joan]

FCA or whatever the corporate name is at the moment makes some neat vehicles, but it is a wonder given the confusing state the company is in.

[gbaglo]

FCA
Combine the two companies that built the two worst vehicles I've ever owned.

[John in Santa Cruz]

Indeed, the wranglers I've driven had really twitchy vague steering and are awful to drive long distances on the highway. massive fun on cane roads on Hawaii or whatever but miserable going any distances on a freeway. sneeze and you're in the next lane.

now, true, most of the Wranglers I drove were the original YJ model, circa 1990ish, mostly with the 4L straight 6 and a stick shift.


(circa 1989 near South Point on the big island)

[gbaglo]

Twitchy is right. I borrowed a YJ or whatever it was in the '70s from a friend. Went to change lanes and almost found myself returning the way I had come.
Rode in the back seat once, heading an hour south on I5. I alternated between cursing Jeep and cursing Washington State highways.

[John in Santa Cruz]

Originally Posted by gbaglo

Twitchy is right. I borrowed a YJ or whatever it was in the '70s from a friend. Went to change lanes and almost found myself returning the way I had come.
Rode in the back seat once, heading an hour south on I5. I alternated between cursing Jeep and cursing Washington State highways.

in the 70s, it would have been a CJ-5 or CJ-7, the CJ-5 was short wheelbase with no real back seat (maybe facing jump-seats), the YJ was mid 80s to early 90s and was based on the last CJ-7, with a lower stance and wider track for improved stability.

[steve dunham]

Hopefully they will start offering the 6.4 liter Hemi V8 engine in the Ram 1500