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05-14-2014, 05:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,213
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Very helpful review techfan. My 17B has the Pro Series WD with sway control that ETI installed as an option for $350. Works very well. Have rethought the Andersen now for the new trailer....
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05-14-2014, 09:21 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Originally Posted by techfan
First, the Andersen IS a WDH, just a different kind.
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Absolutely true.
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Thanks - nice write-up.
From that web page:
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We also think that the Equal-i-zer does a slightly better job of weight distribution. The stiff steel bars allow more leverage in moving weight to the front.
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The Equal-i-zer and other conventional designs certainly have more leverage, but not due to the stiffness of the bars (the bars in fact are flexible, and they must be flexible): it's just that the bars are two feet long, while the equivalent levers in the Andersen (the brackets on the trailer) are half a foot long. The conventional design has about four times the leverage and thus needs one-quarter of the force on the chains to achieve the same load transfer.
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... after a long, hot drive, the Andersen has a lot of resistance on the hitch ball and, at times, that resistance has made backing more of a challenge. It is almost as if the "brake material" lining is hot and grabbing more...
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Interesting observation. Tim, your interpretation makes perfect sense. Damping sway means absorbing energy, and that means heat. Friction material used in brakes - and the Andersen hitch - is usually more effective when hot.
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05-14-2014, 11:42 PM
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#23
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Nelson, British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 15
Posts: 10
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anyone towing Escape 15 with Subaru Outback ?
I have the newer model (2013) Outback 2.5 cyl. and would like to tow the Escape 15A. (max. total trailer weight is 2700 lbs. for this Subaru model) Is anyone towing with an Outback ? I think this should work for the smaller Escape. Would appreciate any feedback. Thanks. The Andersen hitch looks like a good choice .. what hitch are you using ?
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05-14-2014, 11:54 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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ETI lists the "dry hitch weight" for the 15 as 190 lbs and for the 17 it says 250 lbs.
The actual loaded hitch weight on my 17B is 320lbs.
Not sure of the hitch capacity of the Outback, but you need to consider that the actual hitch weight could be more than the Outback can handle.
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05-15-2014, 12:25 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Looks like the 2013 Outback has a tongue weight capacity of 200 lbs.
The Escape 15 has a "dry hitch weight" of 190. Once you add propane, batteries, water, appliances, personal stuff, food, and an iPod, you will be well over the capacity of the Outback.
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What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
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05-15-2014, 07:48 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Longview, WA, Washington
Trailer: 2013 Escape 15B - 2014 Nissan Frontier SL
Posts: 854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Looks like the 2013 Outback has a tongue weight capacity of 200 lbs.
The Escape 15 has a "dry hitch weight" of 190. Once you add propane, batteries, water, appliances, personal stuff, food, and an iPod, you will be well over the capacity of the Outback.
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I have posted before that I must keep almost a full fresh water tank to keep tongue weight close to 350.
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Tim and Julie
2013 Escape 15B
2014 Nissan Frontier, Previous 2012 Santa Fe
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05-15-2014, 10:40 AM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2013 15B
Posts: 124
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Our experience is the same as Tim's.
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15B
Jeep Liberty
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