New Ram 1500 with v-6

[cpaharley2008]

Spec's show it will not tow an Escape 19 with capacity less than 5,000 lbs, only 4300 lbs. I guess the v-8 is the way to go.....capacity is in excess of 8,000 lbs. Just window shopping this morning. I guess I'll keep my 2014 Ram, only has 40k miles and it will tow any Escape!

[elongest]

I recently sold my 2020 F-150 back to the dealer and bought an older PU. Things to consider when buying newer vehicles these days, sales tax, higher personal property taxes, and insurance rates on a new vehicle. With the savings in the above you can have a self-insured extended warranty program for your current vehicle. Changing vehicles/trailers these days is getting expensive. If I were satisfied with my current vehicle, I would be inclined to drive the one I know. I also forgot to mention the newer trucks (all Brands) seen to have quite a few recalls to deal with.
Eddie

[Mike G]

Ram's website says the 1500 with V6/etorque system will tow up to 7730 lbs "when properly equipped," "see dealer for details." I wonder what that "proper equipment" includes?

[oldwave]

It’s the rear end ration on that RAM , I looked into one before I bought my old f150.

[John in Santa Cruz]

the new towing specifications not only relate to how much weight the vehicle can safely tow, but also mandate some performance metrics, like it has to accelerate at a fairly brisk rate up a fairly steep grade, and maintain a significant speed up that grade for quite a long run without overheating. To meet these specs, many trucks have to use higher ratio number differentials which translates to across the board lower gearing, which impacts your fuel economy when you are NOT towing as your engine will be turning a higher RPM at the same speed in the same gear. for instance, a 3.73:1 rear instead of a 3.31:1 rear (those were the options on a late model Ford I was looking at)

note, btw, putting bigger than stock diameter wheels on a truck, like going to 36" instead of the typical stock 32" on a large truck, has the opposite effect, it reduces your acceleration. The offroaders who run those really big tires (38", 40", sometimes even taller) often replace their final drives with ratios like 5:1 to compensate for this, so they still have rock crawling compound low gearing.

I kinda wish they'd decouple the performance requirements from the chassis, suspension, and brakes. I don't mind having to go slower in a lower gear on a long grade when towing, done it for years.

[bborzell]

Just bought a ‘22 RAM 1500 w/5.7L etorque and 3.92 axle ratio. Tow capacity is 11,400 and change.

Also has antlers and a red nose.

[cpaharley2008]

Sweet looking......more pictures if possible please....

[escape artist]

Originally Posted by bborzell

Just bought a ‘22 RAM 1500 w/5.7L etorque and 3.92 axle ratio. Tow capacity is 11,400 and change.

Also has antlers and a red nose.

Hi: bborzell... Our '16 Laramie Longhorn 3L V6 EcoD. has 3:55 rears w/ cargo cap of 892#s. It's got a full load of "Bells& whistles", but no antlers or red nose!!! Tow cap. is 7,000#s + Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

[bborzell]

Originally Posted by cpaharley2008

Sweet looking......more pictures if possible please....

Here are some more.

Crew cab, 6’4” bed, trailer package including a trailer backup feature that I doubt that I will use much (well, maybe), integrated brake controller with dash built in setting adjustments and brake apply slider.

[bborzell]

Originally Posted by escape artist

Hi: bborzell... Our '16 Laramie Longhorn 3L V6 EcoD. has 3:55 rears w/ cargo cap of 892#s. It's got a full load of "Bells& whistles", but no antlers or red nose!!! Tow cap. is 7,000#s + Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie

I liked the ecodiesel that we drove. Problem was that it was a Rebel with huge off-road wheels, a lift kit and no trailer package.

[Centex]

Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz

the new towing specifications not only relate to how much weight the vehicle can safely tow, but also mandate some performance metrics, ...

For folks interested in a bit more detail, an IMO decent explanation in this article published ~when SAE J2807 was promulgated... SAE J2807 Tow Tests - The Standard ... (MotorTrend Magazine)

Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz

I kinda wish they'd decouple the performance requirements from the chassis, suspension, and brakes. I don't mind having to go slower in a lower gear on a long grade when towing, done it for years.

I can kinda understand your wish as a knowledgeable 'tow-er', but overall methinks the (voluntary) adoption of the 'comprehensive' J2807 standard by most vehicle manufacturers has been a big+ for most light-truck consumers. IMO it's taken a lot of the 'hype' out of vehicle marketing, though one must still be very careful about the pervasive "when properly equipped" footnotes.

[alanerickson]

Originally Posted by bborzell

Just bought a ‘22 RAM 1500 w/5.7L etorque and 3.92 axle ratio. Tow capacity is 11,400 and change.

Also has antlers and a red nose.

Picked up a similar '21 except with the 3.21 rear end, so the towing capacity drops to a measly 8,529. We're just hauling an E19 though so it's plenty. We might want to move to a E23 in a couple of years though and so I figured we'd grab something now rather than later, and this would work well for that also. That said I've had tons more consternation about what to get for a tow vehicle than I ever did my trailer. I like the space (speaking of truck) but also wish it was smaller (or at least didn't take up as much room in the garage and got a little better mileage). Maybe a V6 with turbo would fit that bill (which is the way things seem to be headed), but I looked at the gas mileage of those and the improvement wasn't enough to sway me.