putting two ebikes on back of 21 ,

[Barylski]

any in put ,on carrying two ebikes on back of 21ft ,

[dfandrews]

(3) things that we have considered, when evaluating carrying ebikes on the rear of our 17:
-That reduces the weight on the tongue. If you are down to near 10% of trailer weight on the tongue, and reduce it more by the load on the rear, the effect on towing stability/sway may be an issue.
-dust/dirt/moisture accumulation on the ebikes.
-security. ebikes are an obvious high dollar target for thieves.


Our decision: We've concluded that when we acquire ebikes, they will have to be carried within the trailer, or within the tow vehicle.

[ColoradoSwany]

Originally Posted by dfandrews

(3) things that we have considered, when evaluating carrying ebikes on the rear of our 17:
-That reduces the weight on the tongue. If you are down to near 10% of trailer weight on the tongue, and reduce it more by the load on the rear, the effect on towing stability/sway may be an issue.
-dust/dirt/moisture accumulation on the ebikes.
-security. ebikes are an obvious high dollar target for thieves.


Our decision: We've concluded that when we acquire ebikes, they will have to be carried within the trailer, or within the tow vehicle.

And issue #4-weight. The hitch receivers are rated for a max 150 pounds. Our One-Up bike rack will carry 2 bikes of up to 75# each, but the rack itself is 47# and most e-bikes below $2500 are 55#-68#. So, it is petty easy to exceed the max weight rating of the receiver.

[Eggscape]

Originally Posted by ColoradoSwany

And issue #4-weight. The hitch receivers are rated for a max 150 pounds. Our One-Up bike rack will carry 2 bikes of up to 75# each, but the rack itself is 47# and most e-bikes below $2500 are 55#-68#. So, it is petty easy to exceed the max weight rating of the receiver.

You can save some weight by simply removing the bike batteries and seats. I just weighed my seat plus battery and it came in around 12 lbs total. So you can save 24 lbs on two bikes and keep those 4 items safe and clean inside. It also makes for easier lifting of the bikes.

I sound like a broken record on the subject...but we like to keep our folding Voltbike Mariners in the back of the truck, safe and clean. This also allows us to drive on the Hwy to local towns were we can off load the bikes and enjoy them riding them around.

[HABBERDABBER]

I carry on the trailer hitch 2 late 1980's, vintage Schwinn, Mesa Rider "street bikes" on the rear of my rig. No issues to date, and they're not of great value. An eBike....that's another matter.

[sleepy]

Originally Posted by Eggscape

You can save some weight by simply removing the bike batteries and seats. I just weighed my seat plus battery and it came in around 12 lbs total. So you can save 24 lbs on two bikes and keep those 4 items safe and clean inside. It also makes for easier lifting of the bikes.

I sound like a broken record on the subject...but we like to keep our folding Voltbike Mariners in the back of the truck, safe and clean. This also allows us to drive on the Hwy to local towns were we can off load the bikes and enjoy them riding them around.

Great idea to put the bikes in the cab of your truck. What are you towing with ?

[Eggscape]

2017 Ford F-150 aluminum body with the ecoboost engine and 10 speed transmission.

[sleepy]

Originally Posted by Eggscape

2017 Ford F-150 aluminum body with the ecoboost engine and 10 speed transmission.

Thanks for the information. I like that you can store the ebikes in a secure, and safe place.

Hanging $9000 worth of ebikes off the back of my trailer, makes me a bit twitchy.
For us, another possibility is hanging them off the front- though they do become an effective fly and dirt catcher.

We are in the market for new truck- we have had a couple of Chevs- they were all solid. But we'll see once we drive some different manufacturer's trucks.

[John in Santa Cruz]

Indeed, I've carried a couple medium heavy bikes on the back of my 21 and it lightens the hitch weight to about 400 lbs when my trailer is fully loaded which definitely makes it feel a little less stable.

[kvermeulen]

Get pewag chain and good locks.

[fudge_brownie]

And a good cover.

[John in Santa Cruz]

yeah, I have this chain lock for my bike. its a heavy beast, but its both cut and pick resistant, and at 5 feet long will go through both bikes nicely. the cloth sleeve protects your bike paint.

https://www.kryptonitelock.com/en/pr...ey/000815.html

[Eggscape]

Sounds like a good lock as this is the one that the “LockPickingLawyer” uses. If you know his work on picking locks on YouTube...this is high praise.

I would think this would also be a good lock to chain your trailer wheels together with as well.

https://youtu.be/SpVOTEOMRuE

[John in Santa Cruz]

heh, I do watch LPL quite regularly and indeed, its his exploits picking disk detainer locks, combined with some other youtube lock guys showing how hard these are to cut that convinced me. YES an angle grinder will EVENTUALLY go through it, but you'd better have a pair of vice grips to immobilize the link you're cutting, or you'll shatter the cutting wheel. cutting a 10mm hex profile maganese steel chain with bolt cutters? good luck.

I also highly recommend getting a cover for your bikes on a tail rack, protects them from all that road debris. I have this inexpensive one which works adequately, its pretty thin and flimsy so I figure it will only be useful for a couple years.

[Effie]

On the subject of bike cover, what do you do (if anything) with the issue of your trailer backlights not visible to following traffic?

[John in Santa Cruz]

My Escape 21 has lights up across the whole top that are both brake, turn and parking, these are easily visible even if the lower ones are partially obscured

[uthorns]

Are the lights at the top of a 2021 5.0 just running lights or are they brake and turn signal lights? We are putting two bikes on the back with a 1Up bike carrier so it will block a lot of the lower lights.

Jimmy

[EscapeBoulder]

We purchased two folding RAD ebikes. Fold down the handlebars, push down the seat and they fit right in the back of our 2018 Toyota Highlander, front dropout in the 135mm quick release mounts. BTW... I have 700 miles on mine since mid-October. They're a blast to ride.

[Eggscape]

A blast to ride is right!

Bikes are welcome everywhere in our tourist town and so are these. It is a whole new world of enjoyment and exploration.

In contrast I can only imagine what would happen if drove a gas powered motorcycle along the waterfront bikeway.

[John in Santa Cruz]

Originally Posted by uthorns

Are the lights at the top of a 2021 5.0 just running lights or are they brake and turn signal lights? We are putting two bikes on the back with a 1Up bike carrier so it will block a lot of the lower lights.

Jimmy

assuming its the same as my 2014 E21, with the 3 bar lights across the top and 3 more across the bottom, the outer ones are brake/turn/running, and the middle one is just running.