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Old 11-23-2021, 09:17 PM   #1
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Tacoma with WDH and Air Bags?

I recently placed a deposit on an E19. Even though delivery is well over a year away, I am in the process of planning how to best equip my tow vehicle for the task. Itís a 2014 2nd Generation Toyota Tacoma access cab equipped with a manual transmission, V6, 4wd, TRD off-road suspension, and factory tow package. It is also fitted with a Raider fiberglass canopy (150ish lbs). A Tekonsha trailer brake controller will be installed in the near future.
This is the first time that this truck will be used to tow anything of significant weight.

I know that the E19 will be within the Tacomaís towing, payload, and max GVW/axle weight capabilities. However, Iím also very aware that it wonít take much additional cargo to approach the truckís payload limitsÖ..especially if I get close to max trailer weight. I plan to use the Fastway E2 WDH offered by Escape to help manage the load and control sway. However, I am debating with myself if I should also invest in rear airbags to assist the stock 4-leaf springs. The intent would be not to rely on the airbags to correct excessive rear sag (hopefully the WDH takes care of that)....but rather help manage the remaining weight on the rear to the best possible extent.

I understand that the Tacoma is a somewhat common TV for the E19. Iím curious about the experiences of other Escape owners with a similar set-upÖÖ..
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Old 11-24-2021, 12:03 AM   #2
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We have a 2017 Quad cab Tacoma to tow our 2016 E-19 and use a pro series WDH sold by Escape. I installed a set of Sumo springs (blue) instead of airbags. They donít effect the unloaded ride and canít develop a leak. I am very happy with this setup. I think some of the early Tacomaís had weak springs but Iím not sure when that was fixed.
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Old 11-24-2021, 05:58 AM   #3
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We had a 2008 Tacoma SR5 DC 4X4 (SR5, no tow package), to tow our 2007 Escape 17B. I used to tow it locally only hitch on ball. If I was fully loaded going at least an hour, I would hook up the WDH bars. I doubt you'll need air bags. For the 4Runner, you would need airbags, not the 2nd gen Tacoma.

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Old 11-24-2021, 07:19 AM   #4
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We towed our E19 with a FJ Cruiser, sorry I got rid of the FJ.......
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Old 11-24-2021, 09:58 AM   #5
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Many folks tow with a Tacoma, but I would recommend getting it weighed as you currently have it configured to assess how much GVWR you have left. On my 2016 with a shell, I found i had about 40 lbs to spare with just myself and my wife inside - and we're not that heavy. The WDH would have pushed us over the limit, not to mention supplies. Sumo springs worked well on my Tacoma, but I decided to move up to an F-150.
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Old 11-24-2021, 10:16 AM   #6
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I also use the Sumo springs.
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Old 11-24-2021, 10:54 AM   #7
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If the tow package doesn't include a transmission cooler I would recommend one. Also recommend ScanGauge to monitor tranny temp. Neither are very expensive, especially if you can install the tranny cooler yourself, and really give you peace of mind.
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Old 11-24-2021, 11:39 AM   #8
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Thanks to all for the feedback....

I will take a closer look at Sumo springs as an alternative to air bags. The stock rear leaf springs are the "improved" version and have held up well over the last 8 years.

I've owned my Tacoma since new and it is in excellent condition for its age. Other than the canopy, the truck is bone stock. It has been the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. As long as I keep up with routine maintenance/repairs, I hope to get few more years of service out of it.

I am very aware of the payload restrictions. It helps that I am a solo traveler, but after factoring in the weight of the canopy, hitch, and myself....I'll only have about 750lbs of payload capacity remaining to handle the tongue weight and any other on-board cargo. It's doable, but I need to remain mindful of the truck's limits. I think it will be adequate for the relatively short distances that I'll be towing in the near-future. For the first few years, the trailer will remain at a fixed location for the most part and primarily serve as a home-away-from-home while working out of town during the summer season.

I plan on keeping the Escape for the long term, and intend to travel more extensively as I approach retirement. The Tacoma will be replaced prior to that point, I'm almost certain that I'll be upgrading to a 1/2 ton. I'll sure miss the manual transmission....
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Old 11-24-2021, 01:01 PM   #9
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I tow an Escape 21 with a 2014 Tacoma with sumo springs. I have the same truck and canopy as you except it is auto, Sumo springs work well but the make the ride when unloaded a bit rough. In the manual with the WD hitch it says not to use air bags. With the 19 you should have no problem but I would recommend towing mirrors. I had clip onís on the stock mirrors for the first year but they vibrated a bit.
You can find ACANII Towing mirrors for 2005-2015 Tacoma on Amazon will worth the investment and easy to install. Scan gauge is good but with the manual trans you could skip it unless you want to see your fuel usage on a steep incline
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Old 11-24-2021, 04:16 PM   #10
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If the tow package doesn't include a transmission cooler I would recommend one. Also recommend ScanGauge to monitor tranny temp. Neither are very expensive, especially if you can install the tranny cooler yourself, and really give you peace of mind.
For a manual transmission? I assume that you're thinking of an automatic transmission.
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Old 11-24-2021, 07:52 PM   #11
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You can find ACANII Towing mirrors for 2005-2015 Tacoma on Amazon will worth the investment and easy to install.
Towing mirrors are also on my list of additions. I noticed the model you reference are heated. The unheated stock mirrors have long been a pet peeve! With another winter approaching, I might be adding these sooner than later.

Assuming you have now have the ACANII mirrors installed, did you wire up the heated mirror functionality? If so, how difficult was the process?
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Old 11-24-2021, 08:12 PM   #12
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They had different selections when I got mine, I just got the power mirrors. I would imagine you would need wiring and a switch if you added the heated mirrors. Might be something to check out what you would need to do for the upgrade. Just as a warning the mirrors have a different glass than the stock, it’s just a flat glass so you don’t get the magnification that the stock Toyota mirrors have.
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Old 11-25-2021, 12:44 AM   #13
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We have a 2016 Taco, towed with the just Sumo’s for a couple seasons then installed a add a leaf & Bilstien 5100’s in the rear. The add a leaf added 1 1/2” lift in the rear, nearly the same as the sag when hitched.
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Old 11-25-2021, 02:07 PM   #14
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We’ve been towing our E21 2017 with a 2016 6 cylinder Tacoma since we got the trailer in March 2017. I did install the Sumo springs, and think they were worth it. Clearly, the Tacoma works to get up a mountain. Still, we’ve crossed the Sierra’s many times, the Rockies, and the Cascades with no problems. Something more hefty would be easier no doubt. But if you have a Taco, you will be pleased with it’s performance and it will handle your E19 just fine.

Best wishes, and know it’s worth the wait!
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You might consider the Active Suspension system which seems to have a better ride unlosddd and is easy to install
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