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11-21-2017, 10:37 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Emerson, Manitoba
Trailer: 2016 Escape 5.0TA, 2022 F150 2.7EB
Posts: 1,848
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Originally Posted by Bacon
Thanks for all the feedback. I never thought about the second trailer being longer, it might be, barely, but I think it would be. I would have to weigh the tongue, but I can lift it with reasonable effort. While we drive our trailer over long distances, this would just be for the odd weekend trip to the lake, 1-2 hours down the road. Thanks for your help. I will try to go view one around Winnipeg, it might clarify some things. We are worried about downsizing with two kids, but I will post another thread about that.
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My son was very disappointed this summer when he thought I could tow his boat behind my trailer, as he cannot as he has a regular travel trailer.
I just PM'd and got a response from a member on this forum with a 5.0TA in Wpg, she will PM you to arrange to see theirs.
Adrian
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11-21-2017, 03:12 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Linden, Manitoba
Trailer: 2005 Trail Cruiser 529bh
Posts: 12
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Thanks. I look forward to it.
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11-21-2017, 04:15 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Just think what 500# on the rear would impact the pin weight and tow experience?
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500 pounds of vertical load on Escape's rear bumper would certainly be bad... but why would anyone with a 2700 pound boat & trailer have 500 pounds of tongue weight? Half that would be reasonable.
I don't think the boat trailer behind the Escape is a good idea, but I also don't think 500 pounds is realistic.
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11-21-2017, 06:19 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Linden, Manitoba
Trailer: 2005 Trail Cruiser 529bh
Posts: 12
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Not sure where 500lbs came from. My boat trailer might be slightly over 150, but I can lift it without crazy effort, unless I'm stronger than I think... I should put it on my bathroom scale.
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11-21-2017, 07:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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I just threw that number out, I thought boats weighed more than trailers, particularly big ones. Since it is your boat, what is the correct tongue weight that should be known.
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11-21-2017, 08:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Westcliffe, Colorado
Trailer: 2010 EggCamper (#083); 2017 Escape 21 (#053); 2016 F-150 5.0L FX4
Posts: 1,765
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Re-positioning the bow stop on a boat trailer (thus relocating the boat further forward or aft on the trailer) can greatly affect the trailer's tongue weight, especially on a single axle trailer. But as others have already mentioned, other forces may also apply.
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11-21-2017, 08:22 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Steveston B.C., British Columbia
Trailer: 2012- 17'B.... 2016 Tacoma SR5 TRD
Posts: 504
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11-21-2017, 08:33 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Westcliffe, Colorado
Trailer: 2010 EggCamper (#083); 2017 Escape 21 (#053); 2016 F-150 5.0L FX4
Posts: 1,765
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dfandrews
The 2 inch receivers on the back of Escape trailers, welded to 2x3 frame components, all have a 150 lb. limit. It's pretty clear that this is way under what it will actually support. ...
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A bit of clarification - when we first started working on our 2017 21' build sheet in May 2016, the center-mounted 2x2 box hitch on the rear bumper was standard by then, and ETI would mount additional box hitches to the rear bumper for $75 each. I was contemplating adding 2 more, one on each side, mounted to the frame rail. My interest was to provide greater side-to-side stability for a rear-mounted utility box. I was told by ETI that the weight limit for any and all hitches mounted on the back would be 150 lb TOTAL. Divided by three, that would be 50 lb limit per box hitch. Before I could give it more thought, ETI e-mailed me back that they were no longer offering additional rear box hitches as an option - just the one standard one in the middle.
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11-21-2017, 09:01 PM
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#29
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,545
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Quote:
Originally Posted by War Eagle
A bit of clarification - when we first started working on our 2017 21' build sheet in May 2016, the center-mounted 2x2 box hitch on the rear bumper was standard by then, and ETI would mount additional box hitches to the rear bumper for $75 each. I was contemplating adding 2 more, one on each side, mounted to the frame rail. My interest was to provide greater side-to-side stability for a rear-mounted utility box. I was told by ETI that the weight limit for any and all hitches mounted on the back would be 150 lb TOTAL. Divided by three, that would be 50 lb limit per box hitch. Before I could give it more thought, ETI e-mailed me back that they were no longer offering additional rear box hitches as an option - just the one standard one in the middle.
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This is not what I got out of my conversations with Reace on the subject. The reason he gave me for not adding two receiver sleeves as I wanted is that they do not want to do anything at all as far as customizing the game of any model in any way. The 150 lb limit is just a safe arbitrary value that is usable for sure, not an engineered one. I estimate the rear cargo box I am building will weight 250 lbs or so, with cargo inside and bikes on top. I have removed the spare tire and am mounting the box on top of the bumper {with the front of box and bumper aligning) using 2 additional receivers (near the frame, and not the existing one) and am not concerned at all with the weight. As this is all my doing, Escape carries no liability anyway.
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11-21-2017, 10:58 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Westcliffe, Colorado
Trailer: 2010 EggCamper (#083); 2017 Escape 21 (#053); 2016 F-150 5.0L FX4
Posts: 1,765
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These photos were my original inspiration for adding additional hitch sleeves to the rear (I apologize for not remembering who to give credit to). My thoughts have since wandered in other directions....
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