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Old 10-12-2022, 07:05 PM   #21
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I have a 2016 TRD Pro V8. I don't have an Escape, but a regular travel trailer (4200 lbs). Usually get about 13-14mpg when not towing, get about 12mpg when towing.

Truck is fantastic, but the payload is minimal - about 1200lbs which disappears quickly. That's about my only complaint with the truck. 38 gallon gas tank is nice as well.
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Old 10-12-2022, 07:19 PM   #22
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I looked at a brand new 2022 Tundra SR base truck 2 wheel drive with nothing on it. The specs say payload should be 1920 lbs the sticker said 1522. Real world payload is pretty minimal. You can spec an f150 with max payload and max trailer towing, if you go 4x2 crew cab you'll get 1950 labs of payload. Given my upcoming , I've decided to go 3/4 ton. Truthfully cheaper that most 1500 trucks if you go with a low trim. More gas, but I don't drive it except to travel.
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Old 10-13-2022, 09:42 AM   #23
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Are you guys just reading your Lie-O-Meter for your mpg or are you using paper and pencil. I use paper and pencil since everyone I know and trust have found their Lie-O-Meter's to be from .5 to over 2 mpg high.

I also drive 62 mph on the Interstates, except in large cities where for safety you sometimes need to drive 70, but that's never more than 5% of a tank, if that. If we aren't traveling with a time restraint, we'll drive 55 mph on deserted two lane roads. Yes, we're retired. The only time I'll drive faster is if the weather is crappy on our first two days drive in January from Lanesboro to Cracker Barrel in Kansas City, Kansas, then to Meade Lake State Park, but very rarely over 65 mph though.

I also keep track of every tank of gas that goes in my truck, and have been for the last four trucks.

Our 2015 F150, 3.5EB, 6 speed auto tranny, XLT, extended cab, 6.5 box had the highest payload I could find on the lots (1930#). When pulling our Bigfoot 25RQ at 6,200#'s loaded we got slightly under 11 mpg when pure pulling (using the paper/pencil method). Pulling our 5.0 we got about 13.3 mpg when pure pulling. It pulled our 5.0 for nearly 18,000 miles.

In late 2019 we purchased a 2019 F150, 3.5 EB, 10 speed automatic, Lariat, quad cab, 6.5 box, again with the highest payload I could find (1750#'s). We get slightly over 13.5 mpg when pure pulling. We've got nearly 24,000 miles pulling with the 2019.

We just came back from a 1,500 mile trip, from Lanesboro to Mississippi River Rendezvous, to Grand Marais, MN, to Duluth, Pierz, Holdingford, and back to Lanesboro. The first tank got 14.6 mph with only 40 miles unhooked of 432 miles, then 13.0 mpg for 380 miles of pure pulling with under 40 miles unhooked, 15.5 mpg for the next 456 miles, and the Lie-O-Meter now says 14.8 for the last 200 miles home (haven't filled yet).

We've also had numerous trips of under 13 mpg when in the wind, but very few under 12 mpg. But long term around 13.5-13.6 when pulling. We get over 22 mpg when not pulling driving to MPLS/St Paul, and 17-20 driving around town or to Rochester. Over half the mileage on our truck is with the camper connected (both F150's keep track of camper connected miles).

I also drive like an "old man" and have found using the ECO setting for the transmission gets better gas mileage than any other setting with less shifting and never a rough shift, like Tow Haul will do. I also manually shift when encountering steep grades and use cruise control whenever possible. A couple of trucks ago I learned that the poorest gas mileage was obtained using Tow Haul.

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Old 10-13-2022, 11:20 AM   #24
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Speaking of poor mileage into the wind, two days ago we drove home from Sioux Falls SD and according to the lie-o-metre this is what we got. With a good wind from the southwest as far as Fargo was 15.3m.p.g. From Fargo to Pembina ND where I topped off tank we got 9.4! We had stopped in Fargo for lunch, shopping and showing the trailer to a potential customer, and the wind changed to the northwest. Highway speed for both portions of the trip was 65m.p.h.

We have a 2015 F150 with 2.7EB and have ordered a 2022 with same engine.
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Old 10-13-2022, 11:38 PM   #25
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I averaged 16.5 mpg on our trip last month of about 4500 miles. I get better mileage if I keep it at 55 mph or less, closer to 18.5 mpg.

I have the small Ram 1500 EcoDiesel (3 liter) and it has plenty of power; I rarely go over 3000 rpm.

BTW I rely on both the fuel meter in the truck and I log every tank of gas with the fuelly app on all 3 of my vehicles and can confirm that the on-board fuel meter is accurate on my Ram 1500.
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Old 10-14-2022, 06:59 PM   #26
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GMC SIERRA Pulling 17B

I just finished pulling our 17B from Anchorage to Reno. I kept track of gas purchases from Palmer, Alaska to Lakeview, Oregon. I drove 65 mph most of the time (roads are good right now.) I was in tow mode all of the time. My tow vehicle is a 2022 GMC Elevation with the 2.7L Turbo. 14.9 mpg. The truck gets 21 city and 27 highway unloaded.
BTW, this truck has plenty of power towing on steep grades, but you can tell it is gulping gas going up hill.
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Old 10-14-2022, 08:48 PM   #27
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I don't want to know what my mileage is.... I'm not towing a trailer because its economical.... Of course, I haven't used it as much as you folks....I came from Boating.... Trailer towing is cheap compared to that world..
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Old 10-16-2022, 11:27 AM   #28
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I have a 2016 TRD Pro V8. I don't have an Escape, but a regular travel trailer (4200 lbs). Usually get about 13-14mpg when not towing, get about 12mpg when towing.

Truck is fantastic, but the payload is minimal - about 1200lbs which disappears quickly. That's about my only complaint with the truck. 38 gallon gas tank is nice as well.
My 2021 Tundra will carry 1730 lb.
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Old 10-16-2022, 12:05 PM   #29
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We've been using a Transit this year with V6 Ecoboost and only getting around 11 mpg over first 400 miles. Without the E19 about 17.5 mpg in the Transit.

Our 2012 Highlander was 12-13 with the E19 so the Tundra wasn't much different when towing.
Just finished a 4K trip to AZ/NM/CO using the 2021 Transit 3.5 ecoboost; 13 mpg.
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Old 10-16-2022, 04:09 PM   #30
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My 2021 Tundra will carry 1730 lb.
That’s why I was confused why the SR 4x2 had such a low payload sticker. Doesn’t match the specs on Toyota’s site.
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Old 10-16-2022, 06:26 PM   #31
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My 2021 F-150 Powerboost has pulled my 2022 21NE 970 miles thus far. Pulled it home from Medford, where I bought it, then 2 trips from the Willamette valley to the Oregon coast and back.


13.3 MPG including all the backing in when I get home (sometimes it takes a few tries ;-} Up to 15 MPG cruising down I-5 @ 55 MPH.


I've verified my onboard computer is accurate, so I have faith in it's numbers.


However, if it's just a matter of economics, the Powerboost is NOT the best choice, due to it's purchase price compared to a Tundra.

If you're looking for the best MPG in a 1/2 ton tow vehicle, get a 3.0 turbodiesel.
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Old 10-16-2022, 07:13 PM   #32
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My 2021 F-150 Powerboost has pulled my 2022 21NE 970 miles thus far. Pulled it home from Medford, where I bought it, then 2 trips from the Willamette valley to the Oregon coast and back.


13.3 MPG including all the backing in when I get home (sometimes it takes a few tries ;-} Up to 15 MPG cruising down I-5 @ 55 MPH.


I've verified my onboard computer is accurate, so I have faith in it's numbers.


However, if it's just a matter of economics, the Powerboost is NOT the best choice, due to it's purchase price compared to a Tundra.

If you're looking for the best MPG in a 1/2 ton tow vehicle, get a 3.0 turbodiesel.
Absolutely, the Chevy 1500 with the 3.0 diesel is the way to go for mpg. The other alternative is the Dodge EcoDiesel, which although not rated as high as the Chevy still get a lot better mpg than most pickups. The tradeoffs of course are the cost of diesel, enhanced maintenance costs, higher purchase price, and the emissions systems required to meet EPA standards, which are prone to endless problems. If one considers total cost only, buying a diesel pickup may not make sense at all. Sadly, GM stopped putting the 2.7 baby Duramax in the Canyons and Colorados this year, which were very affordable when I bought mine. Despite the tradeoffs, I’m hoping to keep my Colorado diesel as long as I possibly can. The reason is many of the posts reporting mpg in this thread… for me, 12 mpg or less towing and 13 - 15 not towing are unacceptable. Both my Colorado and the bigger 3.0 Chevy 1500 diesel get upwards of 32 mpg not towing, and 18 or more towing.

GM has not released the mpg ratings for the 2023 gas Colorados and Canyons yet, but I have no doubt they will be considerably less than the diesel. But we’ll see… again, tradeoffs… the cost of diesel did become burdensome this past summer. Those $100.00+ fill ups were painful, even if I didn’t have to do it as often.
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Old 10-16-2022, 07:49 PM   #33
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Ford pulled their 3.0 Powerstroke option for the F-150 earlier this year.


Yes, diesel got stupidly expensive as well.


The Ram 3.0 comes from Italy, and is a proven performer, but yes it could cost a lot to fix it when something goes wrong after the warranty is up.


TCO is a tricky thing to calculate....
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Old 10-17-2022, 08:31 AM   #34
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I had a diesel Jeep Liberty, very expensive oil changes..........
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