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Old 04-07-2021, 11:42 PM   #1
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weight distribution system of not?

Hi Everyone, We are in line to receive our 2021 Escape in Dec 2021. My towing vehicle will be a 2011Toyota Tacoma 4WD V6. Should i just assume that whatever is standard for the Escape 19 interms of stabilization will not be enough and I will need the weight distribution systems with stabilizer bar. I have not owned a trailer before so just trying to figure some of the initial issues to ensure safety. What recommendations do folks have or is the options provided by Escape totally adequate?
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Old 04-08-2021, 05:53 AM   #2
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Like so many things in life, the answer is : it depends.

It depends on 1) how soft or worn your springs are, 2 )what tires and psi you run, 3) what roads you plan to travel, 4) how fast you drive, 5) how cautiously you load your trailer regarding tongue weight.

Try this: get 400 lbs worth of people, have them sit on your tailgate, and see what that does in terms of squat/drop of your truck's rear. Watch the headlight angle, too. If it's reasonable in your mind, you could try not using a Weight Distributing Hitch.

I've always used one, since I think it deals with side-to-side sway, and the up-and-down porpoising, but since I haven't towed without one, I have nothing to compare.

If safety is your main consideration, get a Weight Distributing Hitch with sway control. Mine is the Andersen, but it's fallen out of favor, and some consider it a pain to hitch and unhitch. I don't care. I'm used to it.

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Old 04-08-2021, 06:15 AM   #3
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I am towing a 19 with an 04 tundra 4.7 v8 and my used camper had a real equalizer hitch with it when I bought it. I never tried towing without it and never plan on it. it is simple to use and rock steady when towing.
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Old 04-08-2021, 06:37 AM   #4
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Try a careful reading of the owners manual. I was surprised to see some models of Toyota only recommend an anti sway device. They also recommend different devices depending on what weight you are towing. Also look at the ratings that show up on the drivers door jam. Posting them will give respondents more information. Those ratings are specific to your vehicle, including the weights of factory installed options.
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Old 04-08-2021, 09:14 AM   #5
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We have a 2005 Tundra with similar towing and load limits to a Taco and have an Andersen hitch. I have towed our 2015 Escspe 21 with and without the hitch and the ride is noticeably more bouncy without it. Dips in the road cause porpoising up and down. With the hitch it is a far smoother ride and no sway either thanks to the Andersen’s additional anti-sway function. I know some of these hitches had issues a few years ago, but I think they were fixed. We never had a problem and I would buy one again. Friends with a Lance trailer and Ford F150 got an Andersen before we met and really like it as well.

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Old 04-08-2021, 09:26 AM   #6
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Get one, use one, pay attention to the task at hand, do regular tire inflation, lug nut, running lights, brake controller checks and keep your tow in good shape and you will be fine. Eliminate variables and your stress level goes down. Enjoy the ride, your trailer is back there remember that. A WDH does not affect your milage.
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Old 04-08-2021, 10:11 AM   #7
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Your Tacoma is almost identical to my Frontier in towing specs. Both have weak rear OEM suspension. Not sure if the 4WD Tacoma has better suspension but one would think so. I needed a WDH on my Frontier, but recently when I beefed up the rear suspension I was able to eliminate it. As suggested above, check for the sag with about 400 lbs and see whether it’s necessary.
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Old 04-08-2021, 10:34 AM   #8
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As usual good tips from all. I particular like Bills down to earth plan. Would one 400 lb man work? Sorry I'm a sick dude. lol
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I know a few guys who would go 400 but don’t see them all the time. I’d be happy to sit on your tailgate with a 50 lb, bag of Fertilizer on each shoulder and that would do it for you too. Set a new personal best unload record the other day at the landfill. Threw 2,400 lbs of cottonwood rounds off the trailer in 9 1/2 minutes. Some of those were pigs some not so bad. Loaded the trailer with about 1,500 lbs yesterday. Used the tractor. Probably have to take a break when unloading them later today, Had to clear the garden off and shouldn’t have put them there last November. Tactical error.
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Old 04-08-2021, 12:04 PM   #11
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I really need to meet you someday Dave. Maybe share a Kentucky bourbon together.
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Old 04-08-2021, 12:21 PM   #12
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Just wired Escape 34 k , would Kesslers be ok ? Lol
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Old 04-08-2021, 12:35 PM   #13
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Old 04-09-2021, 01:23 AM   #14
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Dave,
i like your straight forward advice! i do not think I need any more convincing and I do not even have the trailer yet! Thanks to everyone else for chiming in! if this is a typical response to a novice's question, I am in good hands !
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You are not too far from Chilliwack, so your trip home should give your some perspective....
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Old 04-11-2021, 01:42 PM   #16
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I have a similar question.
Except I have a 2014 F150 with new Bilstien rear shocks and new 4 leaf spring pack with higher rating than stock, along with LT tires.
19 Escape ready Late May. Claimed dry weight under 3700lb
Hoping not to have to invest or carry around a WDH. One of the reasons of going with a light, smaller trailer (altho I voted for a 17 my wife overruled and we got a 19)
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Old 04-11-2021, 07:09 PM   #17
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We have a 2004 F150, while we can pull the Escape 21 without a problem , the wdh makes it more stable and prevents any porposing . Also, it's not much of an issue to use the hitch, maybe adds a couple of minutes to hitching up. I tend not to use it for short trips , but Im glad we have it on the long freeway travels . It wasn't much money and Id buy another one if somehow this one broke (unlikely). It was the lowest cost one that Escape offered and does not include sway control, which isn't needed. That said, your F150 will likely do fine without one. I also have bilstein shocks, but stock springs.
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I have a similar question.
Except I have a 2014 F150 with new Bilstien rear shocks and new 4 leaf spring pack with higher rating than stock, along with LT tires.
19 Escape ready Late May. Claimed dry weight under 3700lb
Hoping not to have to invest or carry around a WDH. One of the reasons of going with a light, smaller trailer (altho I voted for a 17 my wife overruled and we got a 19)
We had a 17B, now we have a 19’. So good choice.

Do you need a WDH with a F150, probably not, but it will make towing more pleasant.
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Old 04-12-2021, 06:56 AM   #19
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I can’t say for a 19 but we don’t use one pulling our 21 with a Silverado 4x4 1500. We’ve been hit with some high winds with no issues what so ever.

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Old 04-12-2021, 10:49 AM   #20
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With larger vehicles there are many opinions on a WDH. I was intrigued by a recent post that mentioned a particular model of Toyota recommended an anti sway bar when towing over 2,000 pounds and a WDH after 5,000. This was from an owners manual.

There does not seem to be any postings of someone using just an anti sway. Are there any out there?

Many years ago I had a Crown Vic towing a pop up trailer. It was a wiggly bugger but an anti sway tamed it nicely. After fussing with an Andersen hitch I miss the simple sway bar.
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