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Old 01-06-2022, 01:36 PM   #1
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Check shell to frame mounting tabs

I suggest that owners of all years check any tabs on the front of the frame that hold the fiberglass shell on. The frame recall added additional tabs to some early models with 3" frames but most (all?) trailers have them as far as I know. Examples in the attached pictures. These should have silicone or some other type of quality sealant around all edges of the tab where it meets the shell and I would put some over the end of the bolt and nut. Depending on your configuration these have the potential to get considerable spray from the tow vehicle tires on a wet road. When I did my recent lithium battery upgrade I had a soft spot in the floor around one of the bolts in the front passenger side dinette bench. It was hidden underneath my battery box which I added when I moved the batteries from the tongue and the linoleum flooring so it went unnoticed. Water must have worked its way in over several trips. It was not fun to fix. A little prevention may be very beneficial.
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Old 01-06-2022, 02:31 PM   #2
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Great- another maintenance item. You're right though- had one that was broken and Reace said he'd not seen that one before. Thanks for the reminder
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Old 01-06-2022, 02:41 PM   #3
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Old 01-06-2022, 03:03 PM   #4
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Another reason to get the spray foam insulation, out of sight, out of mind.......
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Old 01-06-2022, 03:05 PM   #5
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Another reason to get the spray foam insulation, out of sight, out of mind.......
Unfortunately that won't help in most cases because the ones I have seen are usually on the outside of the frame where there is no foam applied.
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Old 01-06-2022, 03:52 PM   #6
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Good catch. I guess I had a bit of complacency given the solid f.g. shell and the interior floor being plywood not OSB. However, now that it has my attention I'll be doing some caulking around them when the weather warms up. I guess if I want to do a really good job I could remove one bolt at a time and coat the interior of the bolt hole with epoxy. Maybe overkill.

So how did you remediate the area?

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So how did you remediate the area?
After some research I ended up using Bondo All-Purpose Putty. Its a versatile filler rated for interior and exterior applications. I needed something that would adhere to both the wood along the edges and the fiberglass shell underneath. Very durable that should not shrink or crack. Was able to sand it smooth. Because of the thickness it had to be applied in several layers. Recovered with new vinyl and all is well. If I had more time a piece of marine grade plywood with some fiberglass resin would have probably done the trick but I don't have much experience with that.

I attached a picture of the brackets with silicone which I recommend to avoid any chance of water intrusion.
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Correct me if I m wrong, but are not these bolts on the underside of the trailer and does not water is still impacted by gravity? Any water will/would drip away and not go up inside?
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And couldn't all that goop trap water and prevent it from evaporating?
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Correct me if I m wrong, but are not these bolts on the underside of the trailer and does not water is still impacted by gravity? Any water will/would drip away and not go up inside?
Osmosis? Once you have dampness at the bottom of the hole the water will wick upwards.

When mounting hardware on the deck of my boat I always coated the inside of the hole with either polyester or epoxy resin and sometimes with a compression sleeve.

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Correct me if I m wrong, but are not these bolts on the underside of the trailer and does not water is still impacted by gravity? Any water will/would drip away and not go up inside?
I think this goes out the window if the water is coming back with force off a tow vehicle tire. Once it is under the plate it could possibly work it’s way in. Might only be a potential problem with certain tow vehicles and trailers based on how things align. Not sure. All I know is I had a soft spot that was clearly at its worst all around one bolt hole inside. A little prevention outside can’t hurt.
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And couldn't all that goop trap water and prevent it from evaporating?
Do as you please. My preference is to try to keep the water out. That silicone is well adhered and shouldn’t need to be touched for many years if ever.
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Old 01-06-2022, 07:24 PM   #13
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That silicone is well adhered and shouldn’t need to be touched for many years if ever.
Any reason you opted for silicone vs. Proflex?
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Any reason you opted for silicone vs. Proflex?
It’s what I had in the garage. Either should work fine in this application. For all other sealing on the sides and top we do use Proflex.
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I think that was one of the first important things learned here: Though Shall Not Use Silicone- sez Donna D
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Old 01-06-2022, 08:50 PM   #17
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I think that was one of the first important things learned here: Though Shall Not Use Silicone- sez Donna D
Nasty stuff. Glad folks are paying attention. Not so bad when used in the interior, but the Devil's Spawn when used on the exterior.

I've often said, any RV place that come near my trailer with a tube of silicone, I'll come after them with a fork.
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That silicone is well adhered and shouldn’t need to be touched for many years if ever.
I'm confident that you never worked at Dairy Queen.
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I've been regularly checking these nuts after long trips and after several shorter trips, along with the big axle mounting nuts, stabilizer nuts, lug nuts, etc, etc.

A cautionary note...

Way back when, I confirmed with Reace that they used carriage bolts through the floor from above (at least in October 2015), and they just torque them down so that the bolt heads get sunk into the plywood, then they lay down the floor covering. As the plywood gets compressed under the bolt heads, the nuts can loosen up - hence the need to retighten the nuts periodically - but not too much. Be careful not to over-torque the nuts so you don't have to go on a search mission digging around from above looking for the bolts hidden below the floor covering if they have gotten too far dug into the plywood and/or the square depression for the carriage bolt heads in the plywood get rounded off and the bolts just spin around.
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Osmosis? Once you have dampness at the bottom of the hole the water will wick upwards.
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Capillary action.
Same phenomena that dries you when you towel off after a bath. I use it to dry out my water heater when in storage. Remove the drain plug and stick in, with a dowel, a 1-2" wide, long strip of cut, old towel fabric (wick). Water will, in time, drip off the dangling end of the strip.
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