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01-26-2022, 08:47 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Sudbury, Ontario
Trailer: 2019 5.0 TA
Posts: 349
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Our 2019 5.0 started losing some of its front decal within 1 year of purchase. Always wanted to do something about it but in the end I simply removed all of the decals on the nose and cleaned/waxed the trailer.
You can see in the picture below that at the right angles you can see the ghosts of the old decals; I actually don't mind it, looks cool
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01-26-2022, 11:31 PM
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#22
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Humboldt County, California
Trailer: 2009 Escape 19
Posts: 175
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Most towns will have at least one automotive graphics shop that does vinyl work for auto body shops, car dealerships, businesses that have their names and logos on their doors and they also do custom work for drop in customers.
Since hardly anyone has a phone book any more(!!!), stop in at an auto collision repair shop, car dealership or parts store and ask where to find your local detailer.
They have an endless palette of colors, computerized scripts and an array of designs that will boggle your mind. When I had my Fog Lark script made for my trailer, my local shop gave me instructions for applying the script myself, they would have done it for me had I wished, then apologized for charging me their $10 minimum fee.
I came back later and had pin striping applied to both the truck and the car.
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01-27-2022, 07:47 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: St. Thomas not BVI., Ontario
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2016 Ram Eco Diesel 4X4
Posts: 8,038
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jgntch
Alf...can I ask if you put the new decals on a recently waxed trailer or if you waxed (or did anything else) afterwards to help the vinyl stay put? We are considering adding some to our 5.0 TA and wondering where in the spring cleaning and waxing cycle we should apply them.
Also, where did you get your decals from? We definitely want something that will last!!
Thanks!!
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Hi:Jgntch... My pro graphics dealer used a solution to remove the wax where the new lettering was to be applied. It has been professionally detailed since then. Back then the decals were supplied by ETI but http://www.autotrimdesign.on.ca could have made them too. Here's a pic coming out of SRS's shop. http://www.srsdetailing.ca Alf
escape artist N.S. of Lake Erie
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01-27-2022, 03:05 PM
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#24
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Redmond, Washington
Trailer: 2015 E19'
Posts: 311
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While I haven't personally done it, for wholesale removal I hear that it works well to lift up a corner of the vinyl, slide a length of dental floss under the flap, and saw back and forth sideways working your way along between the gelcoat and the vinyl. Hopefully this avoids hurting the gelcoat by not using a hard or sharp scraper or blade. And perhaps the judicious utilization of a heat gun helps.
I ordered our E19 naked, not wanting to distract from the clean and uncluttered look of the unadorned trailer.
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01-27-2022, 09:21 PM
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#25
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Lewiston ID, Idaho
Trailer: 2021 5.0 TA
Posts: 376
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And naked....
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01-31-2022, 07:48 AM
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#26
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Tacoma, Washington
Trailer: 2021 21NE
Posts: 474
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I am glad I read this thread. The front decals started peeling within a few months of delivery. I was ignoring the problem. After reading this thread I think it best for me to completely remove the peeling decals. I don't need a continuing maintenance problem or possible uneven ghosting when the last of the decals peels off or is removed for aesthetics reasons.
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01-31-2022, 08:10 AM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Overbrook, Kansas
Trailer: 2021 E19 (Padawan)
Posts: 1,978
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This is why we ordered without decals. They have eventually peeled on every RV we owned, and I didn’t want extra unneeded maintenance. I do prefer the look of a few decals, like Escape does; however, It’s not worth it to me. The trailer is just another tool (toy) to make travels easier for us. Some brands go overboard on decals, and I personally do not like that look.
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1998 C 2500 (Cruncher) and 2021 Ranger (Yoda)
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03-13-2023, 06:16 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: St Paul, Minnesota
Trailer: 2021 Escape 5.0
Posts: 168
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We store our 5.0 out in the open, no cover. I drove out today to see how the snow melt was going and saw this. I think we'll go naked on the front end, once I can get at the trailer to remove what's left.
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03-13-2023, 09:12 PM
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#29
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Site Team
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: San Jose, California
Trailer: 2023 5.0 TA
Posts: 260
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The safest way to remove decals. A heat gun on low heat and a plastic razor blade.
YouTube “remove automotive decals”. Vinyls decals come off easily.
“Rapid Remover Adhesive Remover for Vinyl Wraps Graphics Decals Stripes”.
it’s kind of expensive but worth every penny. Removes the glue super fast and does not damage the vehicle surface.
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03-14-2023, 10:39 AM
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#30
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
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Inferior vinyl?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearwater
We store our 5.0 out in the open, no cover. I drove out today to see how the snow melt was going and saw this. I think we'll go naked on the front end, once I can get at the trailer to remove what's left.
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That is disappointing that a 2021 trailer would already have an issue with peeling regardless of being covered or not. The graphics on our 2010 which has been outside without a cover most of its life still look almost like new.
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03-14-2023, 11:05 AM
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#31
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,810
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
That is disappointing that a 2021 trailer would already have an issue with peeling regardless of being covered or not. The graphics on our 2010 which has been outside without a cover most of its life still look almost like new.
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It is disappointing and there does seem to be a problem with the newer graphics that didn't exist before.
ETI may have changed graphics suppliers or switched to another grade of vinyl which isn't holding up so well.
If that's the case hopefully they'll go back to what they were using before.
Ron
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03-14-2023, 11:08 AM
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#32
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,050
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
It is disappointing and there does seem to be a problem with the newer graphics that didn't exist before.
ETI may have changed graphics suppliers or switched to another grade of vinyl which isn't holding up so well.
If that's the case hopefully they'll go back to what they were using before.
Ron
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Or it could be the way they're being put on. We know trailers come out of the molds with a good coating of wax. Every BIT of that wax needs to be removed in order for the decals to properly adhere. If that wasn't done, either at all or badly, the decals will lift.
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Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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03-14-2023, 11:10 AM
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#33
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Tacoma, Washington
Trailer: 2021 21NE
Posts: 474
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The front decals on my 2021 model were pealing the day I picked it up. They continued to peal but not as fast as the first few months. It makes the trailer look a little ratty and unkempt so I will eventually remove them.
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03-14-2023, 12:10 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: East of Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2021 Escape 5.0 / 2022 F150 SuperCab
Posts: 2,910
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
It is disappointing and there does seem to be a problem with the newer graphics that didn't exist before.....
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So far so good with my 2022 black graphics after almost 2 years exposed to Texas sun.
Fingers crossed ....
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03-14-2023, 01:15 PM
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#35
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Site Team
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: San Jose, California
Trailer: 2023 5.0 TA
Posts: 260
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I agree very disappointing for the graphics to peel ,
How mad would you be if you paid for custom graphics and they started to peel.
Donna is probably right, poor prep is the problem.
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03-14-2023, 02:01 PM
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#36
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Naples, New York
Trailer: 2020 Esacpe 19'(Hillbilly Heaven) ETI best named trailer of the year
Posts: 1,204
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There seems to be a problem. I would send that picture to ETI and see what they say. mines been out with no cover, and they look like new.
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03-14-2023, 04:46 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Niagara Falls, New York
Trailer: 2020 5.0TA
Posts: 206
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Our 2020 5.0TA has silver graphics and they started to peel and come off in 2021. We bought a new set a couple months ago, it was about $260 for a full set shipped to NY. No WTY on the stickers as I asked. I feel they should last a lot longer than this! Maybe I won’t even put them back on now……sad.
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03-14-2023, 05:56 PM
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#38
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Site Team
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mid Left Coast, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21
Posts: 5,155
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my experience with vinyl stickers is black lasts the longest. the lighter colors are more likely to fade and crack sooner.
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03-14-2023, 06:29 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,810
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I'm a bit puzzled by the notion of removing wax before applying decals.
First of all I've washed away felt pen markings etc. with acetone on new gelcoat . Afterwards they was still definitely wax remaining. The thought of scrubbing off wax on all areas that are going to have decals seems daunting at best.
I applied a boat name to a clean but otherwise unscrubbed transom. At the end of the 15 years that I owned the boat they were still in place. And that's after 8 years of salt air and bright sun in the Med.
So, a bit of puzzle with varying experiences by different folks.
Ron
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03-14-2023, 07:12 PM
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#40
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,213
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Suregrip391
Our 2020 5.0TA has silver graphics and they started to peel and come off in 2021. We bought a new set a couple months ago, it was about $260 for a full set shipped to NY. No WTY on the stickers as I asked. I feel they should last a lot longer than this! Maybe I won’t even put them back on now……sad.
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Dispute the charge on your credit card. They should pay you to put them back on.
For others with this problem: rip the band-aid off!
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