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05-02-2020, 07:54 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
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Frame reconditioning
After many years of use our frames start to show signs of age from gravel dings, road salt and just general wear and tear. You find more wear on the forward facing surfaces inline with tow vehicle wheels especially the front of the step. Decided to take on a full reconditioning. Prepped the frame by wire brushing. Found superficial rust only. The frame overall is in great shape. Was glad to see “USA” stamped on the steel in a few places. Used an industrial product called Corroseal rust converter/primer. This is a great product and is water based. Goes on milky white but dries black where the rust is converted and dries clear everywhere else.
Corroseal Rust Converter | Metal Primer | Rust Paint
Those looking close will likely see some differences from their trailers. This has the 3” frame with the Escape front reinforcement package (aka recall). We also have true scissors jacks which were put on some early trailers.
This is best top coated within 30 days. Does anyone have any recommendations for a top coat paint beyond a basic Rustoleum?
Before pics attached....after pics to follow in 2nd and 3rd posts
By the way...the high lift (~2-5/8” add) would have been great to have during this work!
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05-02-2020, 07:56 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
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After pics....
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05-02-2020, 07:58 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
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A couple more pics...
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05-02-2020, 08:33 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,213
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Whole Lotta Rust
Have done some rust remediation yet not to that degree- thankfully. Gotta do what it takes though. POR-15 out of the can is great for places you don't need a uniform coating. They also have a spray called Topcoat for where you need that even look- like on the rear bumper and front A-frame area and step.
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05-02-2020, 08:58 PM
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Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Asbury, New Jersey
Trailer: 2019 19'
Posts: 56
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I never had any success using hard paint on coatings over frame rust on our previous Scamp. I do most of my camping in winter where road salt does a nasty job on trailer frames. Since getting the Escape I am now using Woolwax Undercoating with great results. This is a lanolin coating that stays tacky. It comes in black to match the original paint. It can be brushed on over rust and light dirt preventing penetration of water. In locations prone to abrasion I recoat each fall. Other areas hold up well. Washes off hands with dish soap. I purchased a gallon can on amazon. Only used about a quart for the entire frame. Stores well for annual touch up.
Ken
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05-02-2020, 11:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Trailer: 2019 5.0 TA
Posts: 864
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
After pics....
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05-03-2020, 12:46 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Santa Rosa, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 15B sold, 2019 Escape 19
Posts: 367
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Looks good, not a fancy upgrade but necessary.
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05-03-2020, 06:31 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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So Dave, what product did you use, Rustoleum?
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05-03-2020, 06:55 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
So Dave, what product did you use, Rustoleum?
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Hi Jim..see post #1. Used a product called Corroseal. Still deciding on a top coat.
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05-03-2020, 07:05 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
Hi Jim..see post #1. Used a product called Corroseal. Still deciding on a top coat.
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Missed that, still drinking my first cup of coffee. Thanks and it looks nice....
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05-03-2020, 07:06 AM
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#11
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossue
Have done some rust remediation yet not to that degree- thankfully. Gotta do what it takes though.
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I think being on the east coast and subjected to road salt is a huge difference. The only area that was really bad was where all the welding was done post production to address the recall which makes sense. Hard to match the integrity of a factory powdercoat. The rest of the frame was in a condition I’d consider reasonable for a 10 year old trailer stored outside and used year round on the east coast.
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05-03-2020, 09:59 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Juneau, Alaska
Trailer: 2016 Escape 19
Posts: 555
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I personally like Ospho for turning rust into iron phosphate but the Corroseal seems to have a lot of followers. Corroseal sure appears to be a lot safer to use. You really don’t want to apply Ospho with any sort of sprayer and be downwind don’t ask me how I know. I always recommend using a needle scaler on heavy rust first.. I think I would topcoat Corroseal or Ospho with derusto paint on areas like the trailer tongue and brake drums, but that woolwax looks appealing for the frame. I don’t like hard undercoating products either.
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07-05-2020, 06:53 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Foothills, North Carolina
Trailer: 2013 Escape 17B
Posts: 31
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Frame maintenance
Can anyone who has a new Escape tell whether the frame is a glossy black or flat black when it is fresh from the factory? Ours is 2013 and is in need of some attention. We have some minor rust issues and fading. Thanks!
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07-05-2020, 06:58 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,044
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Quote:
Originally Posted by E-pad
Can anyone who has a new Escape tell whether the frame is a glossy black or flat black when it is fresh from the factory? Ours is 2013 and is in need of some attention. We have some minor rust issues and fading. Thanks!
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It's more of a satin instead of glossy or flat. At least on mine. But you did ask about new. Mine is a 2014.
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07-05-2020, 07:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Baytown, Texas
Trailer: 2017 21' Escape - upgraded version
Posts: 2,697
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Quote:
Originally Posted by E-pad
Can anyone who has a new Escape tell whether the frame is a glossy black or flat black when it is fresh from the factory? Ours is 2013 and is in need of some attention. We have some minor rust issues and fading. Thanks!
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My trailer is a 2018 and has semi gloss black paint on the trailer frame.
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07-05-2020, 09:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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Tremclad or Rustoleum semi-gloss matches well.
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07-13-2020, 03:52 PM
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 2012 17b
Posts: 31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
After many years of use our frames start to show signs of age from gravel dings, road salt and just general wear and tear. You find more wear on the forward facing surfaces inline with tow vehicle wheels especially the front of the step. Decided to take on a full reconditioning. Prepped the frame by wire brushing. Found superficial rust only. The frame overall is in great shape. Was glad to see “USA” stamped on the steel in a few places. Used an industrial product called Corroseal rust converter/primer. This is a great product and is water based. Goes on milky white but dries black where the rust is converted and dries clear everywhere else.
Corroseal Rust Converter | Metal Primer | Rust Paint
Those looking close will likely see some differences from their trailers. This has the 3” frame with the Escape front reinforcement package (aka recall). We also have true scissors jacks which were put on some early trailers.
This is best top coated within 30 days. Does anyone have any recommendations for a top coat paint beyond a basic Rustoleum?
Before pics attached....after pics to follow in 2nd and 3rd posts
By the way...the high lift (~2-5/8” add) would have been great to have during this work!
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Hello,
I apologize if this has been covered, but I could not find a thread discussing this.
You mentioned your's has a 3" frame, and has what looks to be 1" square tube welded on the bottom. I have recently purchased a 2010, which has the frame gusset reinforcements, but does not have the 1" square welded below the rails.
Was this a common procedure to have done? I would assume the new trailers are 4" boxed rails now?
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07-13-2020, 06:37 PM
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#18
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Bremerton, Washington
Trailer: 2019 5.0 TA
Posts: 1,141
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ericbirk
Hello,
I apologize if this has been covered, but I could not find a thread discussing this.
You mentioned your's has a 3" frame, and has what looks to be 1" square tube welded on the bottom. I have recently purchased a 2010, which has the frame gusset reinforcements, but does not have the 1" square welded below the rails.
Was this a common procedure to have done? I would assume the new trailers are 4" boxed rails now?
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There were two recalls on the 3" frames for the 19' trailer. The first were the gusset reinforcements at the junction of the A-frame for the hitch to the main frame to the trailer. The second was the additional tubing you see in Dave's pictures. I used to have a 2013 19' and had both recalls done at the factory. ETI will send the parts and instructions to a certified welding shop to have the mods done. Contact ETI with the serial number of your rig to get the process started.
Note: you don't mention the model of trailer you bought. I'm not certain the second recall applied to early 21' models. ETI can tell with the S/N what recalls were for your particular rig. It is a good idea to register as a new owner with ETI regardless so they can contact you if needed.
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07-13-2020, 07:28 PM
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#19
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Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 2012 17b
Posts: 31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arniesea
There were two recalls on the 3" frames for the 19' trailer. The first were the gusset reinforcements at the junction of the A-frame for the hitch to the main frame to the trailer. The second was the additional tubing you see in Dave's pictures. I used to have a 2013 19' and had both recalls done at the factory. ETI will send the parts and instructions to a certified welding shop to have the mods done. Contact ETI with the serial number of your rig to get the process started.
Note: you don't mention the model of trailer you bought. I'm not certain the second recall applied to early 21' models. ETI can tell with the S/N what recalls were for your particular rig. It is a good idea to register as a new owner with ETI regardless so they can contact you if needed.
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Thanks Arnie,
Guess I am off the hook for the additional tubing with a 17b. Mine does have the gusset work done.
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07-13-2020, 11:04 PM
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#20
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
Trailer: 2010 Escape 19
Posts: 7,146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arniesea
Note: you don't mention the model of trailer you bought. I'm not certain the second recall applied to early 21' models. ETI can tell with the S/N what recalls were for your particular rig.
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Just for clarification the 21 was never involved with any frame recall regardless of year. The first recall involved 2009-mid 2014+/- 15’s, 17’s and 19’s with 3” frames. The second recall only involved 19’s within the same year stretch.
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