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06-11-2020, 05:14 PM
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Location: Mt Juliet, Tennessee
Trailer: 2020 21NE
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Lack of Black Tank Flush out system? So what does everyone do
Lack of Black Tank Flush out system? So what does everyone do? Just curious what everyone's black tank maintenance is since there isn't a black tank flush out port. This is just for general knowledge and not being critical. I've owned Class A's before so I am quite familiar with the deal. Has anyone has a port installed? How did you like it?
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06-11-2020, 05:29 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Bremerton, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluesky
Lack of Black Tank Flush out system? So what does everyone do? Just curious what everyone's black tank maintenance is since there isn't a black tank flush out port. This is just for general knowledge and not being critical. I've owned Class A's before so I am quite familiar with the deal. Has anyone has a port installed? How did you like it?
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Unlike a class-A, the black tank is easily cleaned with one of those spray wands down the toilet that is designed for that purpose. The toilet sits directly on top of the black tank which is above floor level. So all one has to do is use the cleaning wand and spray all around until the tank is about 1/4 full. Then empty it. I find that doing this process twice is enough to have the drain water run fairly clear.
Because the tank is above the floor, and the outside drain is right below it, the contents flush out pretty quickly. With that good flow, not much stays behind.
The grey tank however is another matter. It is below the floor and the drain is almost level with the bottom of the tank so the flow is more leisurely. When I want to clean out the grey tank, I will run the passenger wheels up on blocks to tilt the trailer toward the drain. This is not needed for normal camping operations but a couple of times a year I like to give it a good flush.
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06-11-2020, 05:31 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
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The issue I see with the black tank rinse is that the tank is inside your Escape thus drilling a hole for installation as well as pumping water thru that hole scares me from that set up. I have installed the rinse on my other other black tanks, but they were outside the trailer.
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06-11-2020, 05:50 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Burlington, Vermont
Trailer: 2014 17b/ 2012 Chevy Colorado
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We drain both tanks, then refill both with 10 gallons or so and drive around the campground or just get inside and rock it back and forth for a few minutes. Can't visualize the gray tank but the black tank is clean as a whistle. Tip: we start our trips with 5 gallons of clean water in the black tank so fecal matter drops into water rather than onto bare tank bottom.
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06-11-2020, 06:22 PM
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Member
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Mt Juliet, Tennessee
Trailer: 2020 21NE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arniesea
Unlike a class-A, the black tank is easily cleaned with one of those spray wands down the toilet that is designed for that purpose. The toilet sits directly on top of the black tank which is above floor level. So all one has to do is use the cleaning wand and spray all around until the tank is about 1/4 full. Then empty it. I find that doing this process twice is enough to have the drain water run fairly clear.
Because the tank is above the floor, and the outside drain is right below it, the contents flush out pretty quickly. With that good flow, not much stays behind.
The grey tank however is another matter. It is below the floor and the drain is almost level with the bottom of the tank so the flow is more leisurely. When I want to clean out the grey tank, I will run the passenger wheels up on blocks to tilt the trailer toward the drain. This is not needed for normal camping operations but a couple of times a year I like to give it a good flush.
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Good info
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06-11-2020, 07:59 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southwick, Massachusetts
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I use a flush king https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008O9DV78...ing=UTF8&psc=1 when I want to clean it, need to be hooked to a dump station of some sort while doing so. I try to clean it out on the last morning of a trip before it's being put away for a long time. Other then that I just add water to get the tank close to full before dumping and run a bucket or 2 tru after to flush it somewhat.
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06-11-2020, 10:02 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluesky
Lack of Black Tank Flush out system? So what does everyone do? Just curious what everyone's black tank maintenance is since there isn't a black tank flush out port. This is just for general knowledge and not being critical. I've owned Class A's before so I am quite familiar with the deal. Has anyone has a port installed? How did you like it?
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The bath window allows you to pass a hose through to the toilet . We always do after a trip at home ,we have a clean out . Otherwise would do before we left campground . Bath window and kitchen window the best windows in the trailer and wouldn’t be without . Pat
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06-12-2020, 07:48 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Retired from Dallas & Full-Timing, Texas
Trailer: 2017 21' Escape as of 01/16/17
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I also use the bathroom window to slip a hose and attach the wand to clean the tank.
Fred M.
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06-12-2020, 11:20 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Dog
I also use the bathroom window to slip a hose and attach the wand to clean the tank.
Fred M.
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Forgot Fred we also attach a wand on end of hose too. Pat
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06-12-2020, 01:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Lanesboro, MN, between Whalan and Fountain, Minnesota
Trailer: 2016 Bigfoot 25RQ - (2018 Escape 5.0 sold)
Posts: 2,174
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KISS!
Over 23,000 miles pulling down the road and 300 nights (30 in our seasonal campground) and we've never cleaned/rinsed the black water tank. OTOH, we've never pooped in the camper. #1 only.
Enjoy,
Perry
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06-12-2020, 01:46 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Perryb67
KISS!
Over 23,000 miles pulling down the road and 300 nights (30 in our seasonal campground) and we've never cleaned/rinsed the black water tank. OTOH, we've never pooped in the camper. #1 only.
Enjoy,
Perry
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That is our mantra but there is still toilet tissue issues which are minimized with the thin "rv" tp use.
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06-12-2020, 01:57 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
That is our mantra but there is still toilet tissue issues which are minimized with the thin "rv" tp use.
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I found with RV TP, you might as well just use your fingers since as soon as it gets damp it dissolves. It also costs more than regular two-ply.
Check the label on the TP you use at home. It likely says safe for septic systems, so it will dissolve, but not in your hand.
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06-12-2020, 02:33 PM
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Gives new meaning to the saying " Can you give me a hand"...............
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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06-15-2020, 02:14 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Redwood City, California
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I've had good results with the odd cleanout using hot water and a little dish soap.
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06-15-2020, 06:23 AM
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Another thought to remember, Escape now installs Horst probes which are a step above the stock industry probes https://www.valterra.com/product/hor...pack-4-carded/
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06-15-2020, 10:41 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Burlington Twp., New Jersey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluesky
Lack of Black Tank Flush out system? So what does everyone do? Just curious what everyone's black tank maintenance is since there isn't a black tank flush out port. This is just for general knowledge and not being critical. I've owned Class A's before so I am quite familiar with the deal. Has anyone has a port installed? How did you like it?
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The only one I know who added one was Jon V. on his old 17B. He used a Tornado sprayer. In my opinion it is not necessary because there are other methods to keep these rather small black tanks clean. Just showing an example of someone who did add one.
Trailer Modifications - Escape 17B
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06-15-2020, 10:51 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North of Danbury, Wisconsin
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For me , keeping my black tank clean and spotless is far down my list of priorities
We dump 3 or 4 gallons of fresh water down the toilet after visiting the dump station ,add some soap / detergent to the tank and drive home
Once a black tank always a black tank
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06-15-2020, 11:37 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve dunham
Once a black tank always a black tank
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Ditto. First time you use it, it's no longer clean ( if it ever was ).
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06-15-2020, 12:14 PM
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Bacteria is what makes a successful blank tank system. If you make it clean as a whistle you’ll be disrupting the system. Other then a very occasional extra fill/flush with water, ours has never had anything but a dump after trip, and if it had light use don’t even dump. Never had an issue with odors from the tank over the years. Grey tank odors we have had and occasionally need to treat it to a lil bleach and drive.
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06-15-2020, 02:45 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21C, 2018 Ford F150
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubicon327
The only one I know who added one was Jon V. on his old 17B. He used a Tornado sprayer. In my opinion it is not necessary because there are other methods to keep these rather small black tanks clean. Just showing an example of someone who did add one.
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I have to admit I didn't bother to add one to my 21. I did find it somewhat useful, however since I rarely camped with hookups, and most dump stations do not have threaded rinse hoses, I didn't use it all that often on the 17.
I might still add one to the gray tank. Washing up after making and cleaning up after serving blueberry pies puts lots of sugary stuff in the tank that, unless immediately dumped, stinks worse than the black tank.
I hope I have fixed the "smell" problem in the large closet (through which the gray tank vent runs) by resealing the rooftop exit. If not, there must be a break in the flexible hose running between the tank & the roof. Since I have Escape provided shelves in the closet, getting at the vent plumbing is going to be tough.
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