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07-28-2020, 12:44 PM
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#41
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2013 19 Escape
Posts: 7,204
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I got it now must take guidance from our leader . You don’t know what someone is dealing with at the moment so go ahead if it makes you feel superior. Have your fun . Have a nice day ! Pat
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07-28-2020, 02:11 PM
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#42
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Cowichan Valley, British Columbia
Trailer: 2020 - 21NE "JoMoE" (Just our Means of Escape)
Posts: 313
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Here's a photo of my hitch (taken for the benefit of Proven Locks) which shows the stamped information of manufacturer (RAM) and rating(6,000 lbs). This is on a 2020 21NE.
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07-28-2020, 02:37 PM
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#43
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2015 Escape 17A
Posts: 2,347
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rossue
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That happened 3 years ago. What it meant for those of us who camp and fish in the high Sierras was that the bears within 300 miles (CFG and USFS info) made their way there for a feeding frenzy, and so, were not around campgrounds to pan-handle ignorant tourists for food in exchange for selfies.
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07-28-2020, 03:32 PM
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#44
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ops
Here's a photo of my hitch (taken for the benefit of Proven Locks) which shows the stamped information of manufacturer (RAM) and rating(6,000 lbs). This is on a 2020 21NE.
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Interesting... the most interesting number to me being the tongue weight limit of 1,200 pounds! Lots of capacity there.
The coupler is also marked "CSA" in addition to "SAE" in the class designation... apparently the CSA (formerly Canadian Standards Association) published a version of the SAE J684 towing equipment standards as D284... but that standard was last updated in 1976 and has since been withdrawn (it's obsolete).
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07-28-2020, 04:27 PM
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#45
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Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Seattle, Washington
Trailer: 2018 Escape 19
Posts: 73
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Plus side on these is they are a bit of a theft deterrent for your stinger as well 👍
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07-28-2020, 09:42 PM
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#46
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19 "Seventy Degrees"
Posts: 3,495
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lilkuma
Hello,
The past couple of hookups I have experienced difficulty with inserting the safety pin on the trailer coupler. I have been using a “Master” locking style pin. The lever hole seems like the angle isn’t exactly lined up with the holes on either side which the safety pin slides through. In the past I haven’t had an issue. I pretty much had to lightly tap it in with a hammer. Well not pretty much - I did tap it in.
Has anyone had similar issues or advice?
Thanks.
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Had the same issue with mine and had to take a hammer and tap the front of the latch to get the holes to lineup again. The latches get bent out of shape on these couplers.
Also had the mentioned slop after hitching where the ball was rattling around in the coupler.
Solution: Changed the coupler out to a Bulldog and extremely happy.
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08-05-2020, 10:36 AM
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#47
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Trailer: None yet
Posts: 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lilkuma
Thanks,
I will give it a good cleaning and lubrication. It worked great in the past just recently it’s been acting up. Just for the record it was the safety pin that was tapped in not the actual coupler lever :-).
Thanks for all the advice and debate over QC - interesting points.
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For what it’s worth, I have found on numerous trailers over the years that whether it is securing the latch over the ball, or the safety pin, often there is resistance and a simple fix is often place the tow vehicle in gear and inch forward (literally an inch or so) by taking your foot off the brake. Then apply the parking brake first, then place in park (this way the TV is less likely to roll back). Now try your pin again...this takes the pressure off the front of the ball, and slightly affects the alignment of all the mechanical parts of the hitch
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08-05-2020, 11:27 AM
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#48
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Houston, Texas
Trailer: "SOJOURNER" a 2019 17B
Posts: 486
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Mayer
For what it’s worth, I have found on numerous trailers over the years that whether it is securing the latch over the ball, or the safety pin, often there is resistance and a simple fix is often place the tow vehicle in gear and inch forward (literally an inch or so) by taking your foot off the brake. Then apply the parking brake first, then place in park (this way the TV is less likely to roll back). Now try your pin again...this takes the pressure off the front of the ball, and slightly affects the alignment of all the mechanical parts of the hitch
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Getting the coupler seated properly has been the most difficult and frustrating lesson for this newbie to learn and perfect. In the short time I've had my 17B (and from the very first), I've learned to bump my van back and forth (just barely) and listen to hear when the coupler drops completely onto the ball. When I go back to look, I find that the securing latch has dropped down, sometimes all the way, and the hole securing the pin is perfectly aligned.
Reminds me of days when I was learning to use the clutch at a stoplight atop a hill with a line of folks behind.
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Life is a journey, not a destination. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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08-05-2020, 11:33 AM
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#49
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Upstate, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 19 - June 27, 2017
Posts: 279
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lilkuma
Hello,
The past couple of hookups I have experienced difficulty with inserting the safety pin on the trailer coupler.
Has anyone had similar issues or advice?
Thanks.
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Yes, we just started having this problem this year, although the last few hookups have gone okay. It can be quite frustrating, but as others have said, pulling the truck forward an inch or so can improve the experience.
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08-05-2020, 11:43 AM
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#50
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Trailer: Current 2018 Escape 21 / Prior 2006 Casita Spirit Deluxe
Posts: 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lilkuma
Hello,
The past couple of hookups I have experienced difficulty with inserting the safety pin on the trailer coupler. I have been using a “Master” locking style pin. The lever hole seems like the angle isn’t exactly lined up with the holes on either side which the safety pin slides through. In the past I haven’t had an issue. I pretty much had to lightly tap it in with a hammer. Well not pretty much - I did tap it in.
Has anyone had similar issues or advice?
Thanks.
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I have experienced this a few times.
The issue is usually resolved by releasing the TV emergency brake while applying some pressure on the brake pedal, and placing TV in reverse and then drive and then nuetral slightly moving TV with the coupler on the ball and not latched. This results in whatever bind on the coupler latch being freed up allowing it to latch completely thus allowing the safety pin to slide all the way through. If the TV and trailer are on a slope I sometimes pull forward slowly to as level spot to accomplish the same thing.
Of course a lubricated mechanism works better than a non lubricated one.
Hope this is helpful.
Ken
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08-05-2020, 11:51 AM
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#51
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Thousand Oaks, California
Trailer: 2020 Escape 21
Posts: 16
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Hitch pin seating problem
I have had this issue with my 2020 E21C. The advice I got was if the pin will not go in, put the transmission in neutral. While keeping your foot on the brake let the car settle. Sometimes the latch in the hitch will not seat because the ball is too far to the back. Since I have done this, when needed, I have had no problem.
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08-05-2020, 11:52 AM
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#52
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Thousand Oaks, California
Trailer: 2020 Escape 21
Posts: 16
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Make sure you keep foot on brake BEFORE putting the transmission in Neutral. Had to correct this.
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08-05-2020, 12:53 PM
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#53
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Moss Beach, California
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21
Posts: 11
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After lowering the coupler on the ball, I often have a problem with locking down the coupler lever and then inserting the hitch pin. Driving forward an inch or two fixes the issue, gets everything aligned and positioned properly. Then all works well. Bill
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08-05-2020, 06:48 PM
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#54
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: boise, Idaho
Trailer: 2018 19'
Posts: 521
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Some wise person on the forum posted to place ball just slightly behind forward lip of coupler rather than precisely in the middle. I found this really helped with the issue.
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08-06-2020, 06:30 AM
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#55
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: College Station, Texas
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21 "LollyPop" June 12, 2017, sold Coleman pop up
Posts: 256
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mucram
Some wise person on the forum posted to place ball just slightly behind forward lip of coupler rather than precisely in the middle. I found this really helped with the issue.
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Yes that works. I have the ball where it looks like the tow vehicle is not quite backed up enough toward the trailer. Then when I lower the hitch onto the ball the front edge of the hitch contacts on the front edge of the ball and it slides down and drops onto the ball correctly. The key is to not have the ball toward the rear so it does not engage with or touch the coupler as the hitch drops onto the ball.
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08-06-2020, 07:20 PM
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#56
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Ocala, Florida
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21
Posts: 28
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E trailer has a repair kit and video on how to adjust the RAM hitch. Mine on our 21 escape has been a pain from day one. The ball has to be in the perfect position to uncouple. There a nut located on the bottom that addresses how tight the ball is in the hitch.
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08-06-2020, 07:37 PM
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#57
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,213
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ocala guy
E trailer has a repair kit and video on how to adjust the RAM hitch. Mine on our 21 escape has been a pain from day one. The ball has to be in the perfect position to uncouple. There a nut located on the bottom that addresses how tight the ball is in the hitch.
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No- the repair kit referenced on etrailer is for a RAM coupler with trigger latch. There is no adjustment on the yoke style RAM Escape uses.
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08-07-2020, 09:07 AM
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#58
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Ocala, Florida
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21
Posts: 28
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Russell, you are correct, my bad thanks for the correction. My hitch does have a large nut on the lower part, however, I have not determined it's exact use. Mine has also developed an issue where it is a bit difficult in lining up the holes for the hitch pin. I will probably replace the coupler in the future with a better option.
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08-07-2020, 09:29 AM
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#59
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,213
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My name is Darryl!
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08-07-2020, 10:01 AM
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#60
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Ocala, Florida
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21
Posts: 28
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Well Russell, once again I was wrong. I just went down and looked at my hitch again and there is no nut anywhere on the hitch. Wanted to rectify my post and not have bad information out in cyber land.
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