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12-04-2021, 06:57 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Framingham, Massachusetts
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21C, NTU April 2022
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New on 'Pre-Owned Escape Trailers' Page
FYI, received a notice from the Escape 'Pre-Owned Trailers for Sale by Owner' page: two additions, a 2019 E5.0 (NC) and a 2021 E21NE (VA).
We don't have a pickup, so the 5.0 is out.
The 21NE is interesting: owner says he paid US $43.6k, but since 2022 build prices add up to $48k, that's what he's asking. Maybe figuring to get his sales tax back? Crazy market, where prices appreciate after sale!
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12-04-2021, 07:25 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Brings to mind the latin saying "Caveat emptor"---supply and demand economics at work!
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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12-04-2021, 07:49 AM
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Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Southern USAi, Mississippi
Trailer: 2016 Casita
Posts: 62
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Brings to mind the latin saying "Caveat emptor"---supply and demand economics at work!
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For sure. A used/new 2021 Casita listed for over $31,000 a couple of months ago. Shown as sold within days. Every thing fiberglass has been selling for more than the purchase price the past 18 months, no matter the model year.
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12-04-2021, 08:01 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,023
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Probably due to the wait time. Who wants to wait? You can always make more money, but you can never, ever make more time. We're only given so many camping days in our lifetime, don't waste them. So while waiting, you may be saving money, but you're not saving time. And neither one are saved when you die.
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2014 Escape 5.0TA
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12-04-2021, 09:09 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
Posts: 8,235
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Never saw a hearse stop at a bank to make a withdrawal and There ain’t no pockets on a casket. It all depends on your perspective, ability and willingness to pay and patience. I was at a campfire gathering last night where everyone was a senior citizen and all were campers, explorers, and outdoors folks. It was refreshing to talk with these people who were quick to admit their limitations but still embraced the outdoor life. I gave some hoarded stuff away and drank some free whisky. It felt just like a rally to me.
Iowa Dave
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12-04-2021, 12:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Trailer: 2022 21C, our second Escape
Posts: 322
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It seems a bit cheeky to ask the full new 2022 price, but the crazy thing is they will get it from someone.
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12-04-2021, 12:31 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Kent, Ohio
Trailer: 2017 21c Sold, 2023 Bigfoot 25RQ
Posts: 1,382
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We sold our 21 for more than we paid for it but considerably less than new. It sold in 25 minutes. We could have gotten more . However someone got a nice trailer and we had 4 years of no cost camping other than maintenance. I’m not greedy enough it seems.
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12-04-2021, 12:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: East of Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2021 Escape 5.0 / 2022 F150 SuperCab
Posts: 2,866
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IMO it's neither greedy nor crazy to ask nor would it be crazy to buy at that price - the 'value' is a matter of the buyer's wants, needs, and priorities. Instant gratification can have legitimate value for some and there's nothing wrong with that.
Whatever the final transaction price, no-one has a gun to their head, it'll reflect a meeting of the minds between a willing seller and a willing buyer.
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12-04-2021, 01:44 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Framingham, Massachusetts
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21C, NTU April 2022
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Centex
IMO it's neither greedy nor crazy to ask nor would it be crazy to buy at that price - the 'value' is a matter of the buyer's wants, needs, and priorities. Instant gratification can have legitimate value for some and there's nothing wrong with that.
Whatever the final transaction price, no-one has a gun to their head, it'll reflect a meeting of the minds between a willing seller and a willing buyer.
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Just to be clear, I didn't say that either buyer or seller would be crazy to make such a deal, only that it was a 'crazy', meaning unusual, contrary to expectations, market. Typically vehicles depreciate after their first sale.
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12-04-2021, 02:17 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,743
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Aren't some warranties lost for a non-original buyer?
If so that might justify a bit lower price than new.
Ron
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12-04-2021, 02:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
Posts: 8,235
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These are some strange times.
Years ago there was a very popular handgun that had a ceiling price. The manufacturer warned dealer not to charge more than retail. Dealers would take the new handgun and fire it once into a bullet trap or whatever. Then sell it for a price greater than the retail price as a used unit. Within a couple years the used price dropped about 25 %
Scarcity, real or contrived, impatience, and discretionary funds in the hands of consumers cause market fluctuations contrary to what I learned in economics 101. As my dad would say “Whatever the market will bear.” He’d follow that with a mumbling “a fool and his money”……
Iowa Dave
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12-04-2021, 02:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: East of Austin, Texas
Trailer: 2021 Escape 5.0 / 2022 F150 SuperCab
Posts: 2,866
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
Aren't some warranties lost for a non-original buyer?
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Yes, both the power and manual awning warranties are limited to the original purchaser, likely there's others.
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12-04-2021, 07:48 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Trailer: "Side Effect" 2022 21C
Posts: 1,341
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrLynn
FYI, received a notice from the Escape 'Pre-Owned Trailers for Sale by Owner' page: two additions, a 2019 E5.0 (NC) and a 2021 E21NE (VA).
We don't have a pickup, so the 5.0 is out.
The 21NE is interesting: owner says he paid US $43.6k, but since 2022 build prices add up to $48k, that's what he's asking. Maybe figuring to get his sales tax back? Crazy market, where prices appreciate after sale!
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We take possession of our 21C next October and am taking for profit bids now. Just let me know what options you want and I'll right up a contract.
You can save months of waiting and get your personal option package for an October 2022 delivery for just a minimum $7,000 USD surcharge.
Do not miss out on this extraordinary presale opportunity.
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12-04-2021, 08:27 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Location: Cold Spring, Kentucky
Trailer: 2022 21C + 2021 F-150 PowerBoost 4x4
Posts: 547
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WillyB
We take possession of our 21C next October and am taking for profit bids now. Just let me know what options you want and I'll right up a contract.
You can save months of waiting and get your personal option package for an October 2022 delivery for just a minimum $7,000 USD surcharge.
Do not miss out on this extraordinary presale opportunity.
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12-04-2021, 09:49 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Framingham, Massachusetts
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21C, NTU April 2022
Posts: 1,023
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WillyB
. . . You can save months of waiting and get your personal option package for an October 2022 delivery for just a minimum $7,000 USD surcharge.
Do not miss out on this extraordinary presale opportunity.
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Don't laugh. I'll bet there are some who'd take you up on it.
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12-05-2021, 01:22 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mid Left Coast, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21
Posts: 5,122
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wanna see some crazy vehicle inflation, look up the BMW 507, made in the late 50s, and sold for around $9000 new, which was about $4000 above the original market target price, so they only ever made a couple 100 and it nearly bankrupted BMW.... they are selling in the $2 million range now. gorgeous cars, btw.
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12-05-2021, 03:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Bastrop, Texas
Trailer: 2022 21C 'The QShip'
Posts: 573
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Brings to a question of why set a price as a seller? Seems to me it would make sense to announce a unit is for sale, with specifications and photos and set a fixed date for the submission of offers. Would truly set the market value for the trailer at that point in time.
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12-05-2021, 03:52 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Forum rules require a price, that said, an owner can always accept more than the asking price if such occurs.......
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Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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12-05-2021, 04:06 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marant
Brings to a question of why set a price as a seller? Seems to me it would make sense to announce a unit is for sale, with specifications and photos and set a fixed date for the submission of offers. Would truly set the market value for the trailer at that point in time.
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No doubt it depends on the market. In a good buyers' market, sellers will have to fight off low-ballers. In a difficult buyers' market, as now, the sellers call the shots. I suppose if demand were strong enough, an auction might make sense.
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12-05-2021, 04:10 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Framingham, Massachusetts
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21C, NTU April 2022
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron in BC
Aren't some warranties lost for a non-original buyer?
If so that might justify a bit lower price than new.
Ron
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That's a point. I've seen reports that Dexter warrantees their axles only for the original buyer, so if you're a second owner and problems develop (as they have been for some trailers), you won't be covered.
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