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Old 04-21-2014, 12:53 PM   #1
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I have driven from Edmonton 3 times in the last month to look at trailers on the island and in Vancouver which were supposed to be pristine and like new.Please tell people the truth if you expect them to drive all that way and at that expense.Should anyone have a clean non smoking 17B in nice shape please contact me as I will drive out to buy it. We are not that picky we just don't want the expense and the drive to get there and find out what we were told is not the truth. Thanks to all for this incredible forum
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Old 04-21-2014, 01:34 PM   #2
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There are definitely sellers out there who have no qualms about deliberately misrepresenting the condition of an item that is being sold. I don't really see the value in that, since whoever will go out to look at an item should see for themselves that they have been mislead, and for me, that would be an immediate deal breaker.

Most sellers are not trying to misrepresent the product they are selling. One of the major problems is that condition of an item is often quite difficult to describe in a truly objective manner. Seller often has a personal attachment of some sort that may tend to skew their perceptions of what the condition actually is. Buyer may have a totally different view of what "good" condition actually means.

It really is up to the purchaser to ask sufficiently detailed questions and to obtain sufficient pictures to obtain an accurate representation of the goods they are wanting to purchase. Someone who may be traveling many miles to look at a trailer is taking on some risk that the condition of the item may be different from what they expected. One solution may be to have someone local view the item and give you a third party opinion of condition before you yourself drive many hours to see something that you will be disappointed in. If at the end of the day, you find yourself continually disappointed by the used trailer market, maybe you have to purchase something new.
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Old 04-21-2014, 02:09 PM   #3
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It really is up to the purchaser to ask sufficiently detailed questions and to obtain sufficient pictures to obtain an accurate representation of the goods they are wanting to purchase. Someone who may be traveling many miles to look at a trailer is taking on some risk that the condition of the item may be different from what they expected..
Couldn't agree more. A friend just flew to to St. Martin at considerable expense to see a boat that he'd put down a deposit on. He had seen several photos but they didn't show the ugly stuff. Answers to previous questions had been sketchy. So, at the risk of seeming to be pushy the only thing one can do is ask for more photos and ask more questions if there's any doubt about condition of items.

On the other hand we bought our Scamp in Portland, sight unseen and it was exactly as described. Well, not exactly, there was the brand new, uninstalled, a/c that came with it that hadn't been in the ad. All in all, it's always a bit of a crapshoot.

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Old 04-21-2014, 03:31 PM   #4
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Halloree. I agree with Ron, it's a crap shoot out there looking for used. My beloved spent some time and expense converting cdn $ into US $ trying to do a quick deal in the US only to discover that the Escape trailer she drove down to see had not. been maintained.

On the other hand, we recently saw a nice example of a well maintiained Escape in our area and when it comes up for sale it will be perfect for someone. We just wanted our own options so decided to stay with buying new.

My advice would be to ask detailed questions about how the unit was maintained and ask for lots of pictures. But the pressure seems to be that good fiberglass trailers don't come up all that often and you have to be ready to deal.

Like the fairy tale: you may save to kiss a few toads before you find your prince/ess... There are ugly step-mothers out there to watch out for. But, unless you want to pay for new get ready to pucker up and kiss a few toads. Good luck in your quest!
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Old 04-21-2014, 07:50 PM   #5
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Smokers don't know they make their cars and trailers stink and stain the headliners and upholstery. I never knew it until I quit years ago. You lose your sense of smell and taste over time. They may be unaware of this, so it is the first question you should ask.
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Old 04-21-2014, 09:27 PM   #6
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I drove 1600 miles one way to buy my trailer. I had never been in an Escape trailer. The owner said, in effect, that he knew I wasn't driving that far just to kick the tires, and that I needed to know exactly what the condition was. I ended up with a good vacation and a good trailer. Thanks to an honest owner.
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Old 04-21-2014, 09:41 PM   #7
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I'm one of those "people" that's getting ready to sell an old, used trailer. I hope my attachment to this trailer doesn't spill over to "it's perfect, wonderful and you'll love it!" stage. I have a certain online reputation to maintain.

But, it really is great!

Still... it's about asking the questions that aren't answered in the original ad and your ability to be "flexible."

Good luck on your hunt!
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Old 04-22-2014, 01:47 PM   #8
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Buying and selling used items is so challenging since people perceive conditions so differently. I would not say someone is not being honest it is just that each person has a different standard.

Sounds like you just need to order a new trailer or be willing to accept flaws and put money into any trailer you buy. Pictures can never capture every nit picky detail on an item.
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Old 04-22-2014, 01:53 PM   #9
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Or wait for the one-owner trailer that for personal reasons needed to sell AND it is like new and never smoked in. Our 3 year old was even garaged! We figured we saved about $4K over the demo at ETI and it saved us time going there and back to CA. Keep looking, and stay picky.
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Old 04-22-2014, 05:26 PM   #10
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One solution may be to have someone local view the item and give you a third party opinion of condition before you yourself drive many hours to see something that you will be disappointed in.
I think this is an excellent idea, and I know that this sort of thing has been arranged through other forums... why not this one? There are certainly knowledgeable Escape Forum members in the area of these advertised trailers; I can't speak for them, but I wouldn't be surprised if one were willing to check out serious possibilities.
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Old 04-26-2014, 09:27 PM   #11
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Thanks forall the replys. I asnt that picky but when the pictures you are sentare not even of that trailer people are being deceptive. Onewe looked at said no pets. When we got there all the cushions and cupboards were shredded from cats. I found one finally that just needed to be cleaned. I can accept that but not fraudulent pictures or ones that are totally deceiving.
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I think this is an excellent idea, and I know that this sort of thing has been arranged through other forums... why not this one? There are certainly knowledgeable Escape Forum members in the area of these advertised trailers; I can't speak for them, but I wouldn't be surprised if one were willing to check out serious possibilities.
Perhaps, a sticky on the "For Sale/Wanted" subforum could be used by members to state their willingness to check out trailers and the geographic area they'd be willing to cover.

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Old 04-27-2014, 12:00 PM   #13
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Personally, I wouldn't want to put anything in writing that could come back to haunt me.
Oh, I guess that's not true.
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Old 04-27-2014, 02:10 PM   #14
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Personally, I wouldn't want to put anything in writing that could come back to haunt me.
Oh, I guess that's not true.


Of course, any check-out by another forum member is just a personal opinion, carrying no commitment or liability. That's still useful to weed out undesirable offerings.

One thing a local member could do is simply take photos of the actual trailer - especially the less-presentable areas; they would be useful even without assessment or even comment.
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Old 04-27-2014, 03:08 PM   #15
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Good idea. Pix are worth a thousand words, or at least a couple.
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Old 04-28-2014, 08:06 PM   #16
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In addition to the situations Halloree has encountered, I would also like to bring up the sellers who claim to have a B model Escape, when they really have a modified A model. I have contacted sellers this year who have advertise a B model for sale. Come to find out, they have an A model that a toilet added, but no shower. To me, this is basically an A model that has been modified or was built with additional options. If these people would look at the schematics of the A and B models, they will notice that the bathroom in the B model is one with a toilet, shower and sink. Some also have an A model, with a toilet added, and an OUTSIDE shower, advertised as a B model.

For those of us, looking for a TRUE B MODEL, this is misleading.
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Old 04-28-2014, 08:09 PM   #17
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Some people are just clueless.
I drove for an hour because the seller told me he had a 16mm Bolex movie camera for sale. It was an cheapo 8mm Kodak.
He's lucky I didn't shove it down his throat.
Another hour home.
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Good thing you are retired Gbaglo and have some time .

my beloved Liz (who is retired) put in way more hours and bought a lot of US dollars just to be ready to deal on an old Escape that wasn't up to what she wanted. We should have asked more questions before she set off on the trek.
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Old 05-05-2014, 08:46 AM   #20
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Good day halloree.

My name is Scott and I have a mint condition 17' plan B that I just posted here in Edmonton. They guys in the forum told me to contact you. I see by your messages that you have not had very good luck. Please drop me a line and I would love to show you this trailer if your still in the market.

Hope to chat soon.

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