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Old 12-29-2012, 01:05 PM   #41
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I like the idea of a recliner and desk combo, but what about eating inside?
I'd eat in the recliner or at the desk. I think there might be room for 3 people this way. Would need to use a TV tray and/or get some collapsible chairs.
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:07 PM   #42
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Where would you put the fireplace then?
Hmmmm . That might be a problem.
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Old 12-29-2012, 02:36 PM   #43
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Just leave out the hot tub.
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Old 12-29-2012, 03:07 PM   #44
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Reace, how about technical specs... what axles and tire sizes will be used? Staying with a 2" coupler? Top-of-ball coupling height? I realize some details will not be set yet.
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Old 12-30-2012, 08:22 PM   #45
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For the dinette area, the benches do play a role in adding strength to the shell, so captains chairs are not an option we can entertain. Sorry... but there are some very comfortable lounge chairs available for sitting outside under the awning!

Here are a few things that are set with regards to the chassis set up at this point...

Axles will be 3000 lb capacity torflex axles
2" coupler
2x4 tubular frame construction.
14" tires

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Old 12-31-2012, 02:37 AM   #46
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Here are a few things that are set with regards to the chassis set up at this point...
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:35 AM   #47
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... but there are some very comfortable lounge chairs available for sitting outside under the awning!
Ah yes, one of the main reasons we head out with our Escapes, to get outside and enjoy!
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Old 01-01-2013, 12:09 PM   #48
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How about office chair style recliners that bolt onto the benches? Some type of back support makes a world of difference.
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Old 01-01-2013, 01:11 PM   #49
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There is a discussion of "Comfy Reading Seating..." at the Casita Travel Trailer Forum (Don't know if you have to join to view, but it is worth joining anyway & they seem to tolerate me as an Escape owner.)

One of the solutions that is expensive, but interesting is the West Marine High-Back Go Anywhere Seat. Like any marine item it is a bit over priced, but it sure looks like it would be comfortable sitting in place of the bottom cushion in my 17!.
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Old 01-01-2013, 01:35 PM   #50
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The Go anywhere seat is a very interesting idea. I'm wondering how well it would fit at the dinette.

I'm assuming that with the hinged dinette, the table can be folded and pushed against the wall, leaving a space between the two bench seats. Is that correct?
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The front dinette in the 17B slides - I'm fairly sure it would fit with the table slid to the far side since I travel solo and wouldn't need to center the table after sitting. I'd also be able to use it outside on picnic tables, etc. Awful tempting!
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:55 PM   #52
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One more thing to move to access under seat storage though. I get irked with pillows and power cords.
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Escape 19 looked really good except for two things (for us):

- Wet washroom
- Lack of bed isles

Is it even remotely possible to consider either of these options for the new 21ft model?

Also, what would be the GVWR of this model? Is it going to be similar to the 19ft model with less CCC or will it exceed 5000lb?

Very intrigued with the 21ft model.
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You will not likely get anything but a wet bath, as though a few are not keen, most like myself prefer this option, as it frees up space for other uses. We rarely use the shower anyway.

As far as the bed aisles go, unless they decided to go even wider, and completely rebuild the mould, I doubt that there would be room on both sides for walking. With the width it is now, and with a full queen width, there would be only 20" left over, not enough for two aisles.
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21' Escape

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We are currently working on the mold and the plug for the 21’ Escape and hope to have the first ones available late Spring however, we do not have them scheduled to enter production until October in case there are any unforeseen delays. Reace and I were just in Vernon looking at the 'plug' and other than being teal it looks fantastic!

We expect the 21’ Escape to weigh about 300lbs –400lbs more than the 19’ Escape which means we will probably recommend a 5000lbs minimum towing capacity.


Based on the current Standard Features list we anticipate the base price of this trailer to be $25,500.

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Wow, less than $2k for the extra 2 feet, great deal. All the previous models jumped at least $2k to upgrade another 2 feet, this one is $1,500. HHHmmm, anyone interested in a slightly used 19'??
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Just kidding, but what a deal.
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Just wondering if a final layout choice has been made?
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Here are a few things that are set with regards to the chassis set up at this point...

Axles will be 3000 lb capacity torflex axles
2" coupler
2x4 tubular frame construction.
14" tires
For comparison, the 19' has 2500 lb capacity axles and a 4000 lb GVWR.

What size is the frame tubing in the 19'?

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...what would be the GVWR of this model? Is it going to be similar to the 19ft model with less CCC or will it exceed 5000lb?
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We expect the 21’ Escape to weigh about 300lbs –400lbs more than the 19’ Escape which means we will probably recommend a 5000lbs minimum towing capacity.
Reace and Tammy, will the 21' GVWR be higher to maintain cargo carrying capacity - perhaps 5000 pounds? The recommended tow vehicle capacity and the trailer's GVWR are not quite the same thing.
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For comparison, the 19' has 2500 lb capacity axles and a 4000 lb GVWR.

What size is the frame tubing in the 19'?




Reace and Tammy, will the 21' GVWR be higher to maintain cargo carrying capacity - perhaps 5000 pounds? The recommended tow vehicle capacity and the trailer's GVWR are not quite the same thing.
Since the axle ratings have went up by 500lb, perhaps GVWR will go up by 1000lb to 6000lb?
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