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05-09-2016, 10:33 PM
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Senior Member
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Ad in latest Trailer Life magazine
On page 59, in the June 2016 issue of Trailer Life, is an ad from ETI which shows the outside of the new 2017 19 footer.
Which, interesting enough, I just realized doesn't show the front storage container. So, I wonder if that has to be changed in shape from the ones they've used in the past.
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05-10-2016, 08:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NW Cat Owner
On page 59, in the June 2016 issue of Trailer Life, is an ad from ETI which shows the outside of the new 2017 19 footer.
Which, interesting enough, I just realized doesn't show the front storage container. So, I wonder if that has to be changed in shape from the ones they've used in the past.
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I am not surprised that the front storage box is not shown, as it is after all an optional feature of the trailer. but that doesn't mean it wont be revamped for the 2017 model.
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05-10-2016, 11:24 AM
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I don’t like Trailer Life Magazine. I don’t like their pompous superiority, their king of the mountain publishing preference for fancy slide-outs and dueling roof air conditioners’ on mega-campers with interior decor rivaling a rhinestone-gaudy Trump Tower. Trailer life that is not. You could fit a cathedral organ in some of them busses. I hate their clear editorial avoidance of articles about small, modest, but otherwise perfect fiberglass trailers everyman camps in. We are the best but it’s like we’re not even there.
I also don’t like their rudeness. Their “you’re nobody if you won’t pay for a full page ad” attitude. I mean, like when a few months ago I put together a nice essay, with nice pictures, on wheel bearings we little guys can all relate to. It’s been months but no confirmation they got my submission, not even the courtesy of a “thank you but it’s not what we want” response. It’s maddening. It cost me nineteen bucks to mail that.
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05-10-2016, 12:15 PM
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Myron, You are right! I let my Bicycling magazine lapse for the same reason. It was all about 'eye candy'.
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05-10-2016, 12:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyronL
I don’t like Trailer Life Magazine. I don’t like their pompous superiority, their king of the mountain publishing preference for fancy slide-outs and dueling roof air conditioners’ on mega-campers with interior decor rivaling a rhinestone-gaudy Trump Tower. Trailer life that is not. You could fit a cathedral organ in some of them busses. I hate their clear editorial avoidance of articles about small, modest, but otherwise perfect fiberglass trailers everyman camps in. We are the best but it’s like we’re not even there.
I also don’t like their rudeness. Their “you’re nobody if you won’t pay for a full page ad” attitude. I mean, like when a few months ago I put together a nice essay, with nice pictures, on wheel bearings we little guys can all relate to. It’s been months but no confirmation they got my submission, not even the courtesy of a “thank you but it’s not what we want” response. It’s maddening. It cost me nineteen bucks to mail that.
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Wish I could see your article and pictures Myron . Pat
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05-10-2016, 12:51 PM
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Ssshhhh! Am glad we're in a niche category. Leaves the campgrounds that will only handle smaller trailers with more availability. Bigger is better
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05-10-2016, 12:54 PM
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Magazines
Myron,
I don't happen to read Trailer Life so have no truck with them but do, in the spirit of Voltaire, respect your expressed opinion. I'm down to one magazine that I have taken since 1959 and it's barely changed, which is why I like it. Fur-Fish-Game, a magazine for practical outdoorsmen. Where else could you learn to skin a muskrat with an air compressor?
Iowa Dave
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05-10-2016, 01:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa Dave
Myron,
Where else could you learn to skin a muskrat with an air compressor?
Iowa Dave
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I have an air compressor, just need a muskrat.
How do you do that?
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05-10-2016, 02:05 PM
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meanwhile, where the Bismark's can't go, way back in the mountains along the Animas River...
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"A billion here, a billion there...add it all up and before you know it you're talking real money." Everett Dirkson
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05-10-2016, 02:23 PM
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Site Team
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They cater to the big boys Myron. No surprise that for the most part they consider modest and efficient trailers a non story.
When I was a kid, my absolute favorite magazine was Field and Stream. Nowadays it's quite different, and is mostly ads.
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05-10-2016, 02:29 PM
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They did do a number of articles on small trailers including Escapes. They insisted that Escape give them info and do a cover because of interest from readers, when Escape already had too much business (not that they think anything is too much business!).
Or course, practically everything out there is big so that is what they usually cover. Maybe someone will start up a little molded fiberglass magazine one day.
Maybe they will get to your article some time, Myron. I expect that they have a pile of them.
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05-10-2016, 04:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MyronL
I don’t like Trailer Life Magazine. I don’t like their pompous superiority, their king of the mountain publishing preference for fancy slide-outs and dueling roof air conditioners’ on mega-campers with interior decor rivaling a rhinestone-gaudy Trump Tower. Trailer life that is not. You could fit a cathedral organ in some of them busses. I hate their clear editorial avoidance of articles about small, modest, but otherwise perfect fiberglass trailers everyman camps in. We are the best but it’s like we’re not even there.
I also don’t like their rudeness. Their “you’re nobody if you won’t pay for a full page ad” attitude. I mean, like when a few months ago I put together a nice essay, with nice pictures, on wheel bearings we little guys can all relate to. It’s been months but no confirmation they got my submission, not even the courtesy of a “thank you but it’s not what we want” response. It’s maddening. It cost me nineteen bucks to mail that.
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I have the exact same issue with Backcountry Magazine which features huge, high consequence descents most backcountry skiers want no part of. I give them feedback about writing aricles most readers might actually go and they ignore me.
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05-10-2016, 04:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ice-breaker
I am not surprised that the front storage box is not shown, as it is after all an optional feature of the trailer. but that doesn't mean it wont be revamped for the 2017 model.
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Not only is it an option, but it looks better without the storage box, something important to draw folks in.
Though they may change the storage box, there is no reason to, as the front and rear of the trailer moulds never changed.
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05-10-2016, 05:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yardsale
I have the exact same issue with Backcountry Magazine which features huge, high consequence descents most backcountry skiers want no part of. I give them feedback about writing aricles most readers might actually go and they ignore me.
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An editor used that same argument for selecting material for the fashion section of the newspaper. He wanted clothes people buy. I pointed out that Sears and Walmart deliver flyer with those pictures in them and nobody would buy a newspaper to look at those. Now look where newspapers are.
I don't buy Car and Driver to read about how somebody drove to Costco and put bags of groceries in their Subaru.
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05-10-2016, 07:40 PM
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Equipment shown in ads - for any kind of vehicle - is all about what looks desirable, not what people actually buy or which equipment is included in the advertised price.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
Though they may change the storage box, there is no reason to, as the front and rear of the trailer moulds never changed.
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How could the front and rear not change? The new shape is the same width at the beltline, but significantly wider at the top and bottom (so much so that the frame rails are now further apart and the axles longer) because the walls no longer slope inward. The ends must be wider at top and bottom corners than before, although the characteristic shape has been preserved.
Enough change to make the existing box no longer fit properly? I don't know.
baglo - Car and Driver is essentially now Exotic Car and Owner... very little to do with driving.
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05-10-2016, 07:51 PM
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Actually, been about 40 years since I bought any car magazine. I think when I got the Subaru Legacy it was all over.
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05-10-2016, 08:59 PM
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Between Myron and Iowa Dave, I always get my laugh for the day. Thank you to both!
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05-11-2016, 06:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa Dave
Myron,
I don't happen to read Trailer Life so have no truck with them but do, in the spirit of Voltaire, respect your expressed opinion. I'm down to one magazine that I have taken since 1959 and it's barely changed, which is why I like it. Fur-Fish-Game, a magazine for practical outdoorsmen. Where else could you learn to skin a muskrat with an air compressor?
Iowa Dave
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Gee Dave, I thought the best way to skin a muskrat was with a Sawzall!
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