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Old 10-08-2019, 07:33 PM   #21
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They mentioned bunk options over on the FB page, with double beds and bunks, you have sleeping for at least 6 comfortably. A veritable hotel suite on wheels.....
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Old 10-08-2019, 07:54 PM   #22
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Our experience is that the best, most private and unobstructed view is out the back windows.
Offer an optional flipped plan and it could work with us.

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Of course, that puts the bed at the front, near the door, which bothers some.
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Old 10-08-2019, 08:21 PM   #23
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A nice 23' floorpan. A cramped 21' plan.
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Old 10-08-2019, 08:48 PM   #24
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Personally, I hate crosswise beds, one partner has to climb OVER the other partner to get out of bed. being that we're both horizontally challenged, thats not that easy anymore.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:06 PM   #25
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Jim, having both front and back as bed choices in one trailer is what I have in my 17A, though of course, not as generous in room as the 21. I asked for the front to be a second dinette rather than a double bed with a mattress. ETI cut and finished the front table 30/22 and most of the time my "bunk" is the 30 inch front section. I have the 22 inch piece in case i need to sleep 4, which has happened. This is an outstanding setup for one person, as it gives me both a larger floor space (between the front benches), AND a 22 inch seat on both driver and passenger side just inside the door while preserving a big table/work area in the back.

There may not be a big call for this, but I think ETI could benefit from showing pics of this option for single folks. It is so much more roomy in a small trailer.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:22 PM   #26
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I like the plan but as there are only two of us the dinette of the 19 is plenty.

If the front could also be 60 inches (front to back) wide and the possibility for some to also select from the factory the full time bed in the front and the dinette in the rear. You might get more sales. We like to sit and look out the front of the trailer as here in BC we are usually backed into the bush but there are some areas where the best view is out the rear.

A 60 wide dinette would also allow an older girl and boy child to each have their own side of the dinette as a bed. Something you can’t do in a 19 unless the children are young and short.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:30 PM   #27
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Our experience is that the best, most private and unobstructed view is out the back windows.
Offer an optional flipped plan and it could work with us.
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Old 10-08-2019, 09:37 PM   #28
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Have they posted the proposed 23 layout
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:11 AM   #29
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Being street-side heavy is a common issue, because it is the natural location for those components. It can cause issues: in my Boler (which has basically this layout), if the trailer is allowed to be too left-heavy it rolls side-to-side on the road, but that depends on various factors and in the Boler is a result of the suspension geometry (which is not the same in an Escape). In the existing 21' with the standard dinette the battery is on the curbside (under the dinette seat), and that can somewhat offset the imbalance. Beyond that, it's a matter of packing.

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flipping the bed/dinette would allow easier use of the table for counter space. there are no dimensions given for the front bed but it appears only a smidge narrower than the back bed.
The smidge may be too much, because if a larger front bed requires shifting the door rearward, it would run into the wheel wells, if the door is placed as it is in the existing 21'. This was one of the factors in the existing 19' design, as Reace explained years ago.

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If the queen bed in the 21 LE fits side-to-side would the LE be narrower than the current 21 or is something clever done with the extra space? A narrow headboard with built in storage, perhaps?
My 1979 Boler B1700RGH has a storage bin on each end of the rear bed (each side of the trailer), taking that space and making it useful. Since that trailer is only the width of an Escape 19', and the bed is not Queen length, feet and pillows can overlap onto the storage bin space.
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:13 AM   #30
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I still hope that a more meaningful name is chosen for this variant; "LE" for "Limited Edition" might as well be "RM for "Random Model" , since it doesn't tell us anything about what makes it different. To me it suggests a trim level, rather than a different configuration.
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Old 10-09-2019, 01:42 AM   #31
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I prefer this version , the LE to the normal 21'. I thought the bed in the 21 original was to narrow, I like to spread out.
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Old 10-09-2019, 05:42 AM   #32
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I see advantages and preferences to both and the fact they are offering these options and then also openly discussing them with members of this community I think makes Escape what they are, the kind of company we want to do business with.
I see the LE version being more for a family and the current 21' great for two but you want two more come on.

I'm more curious to see what they do regarding distribution and US dealers. We all know most RV repair places do not have the best reputations and who knows if how they do it would be any better but having Escape authorized repair closer to me is something I would feel good about.

THANKS AGAIN to Escape ownership for caring enough to hear what their consumers have to say. I know I'm a walking billboard for what you do.

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Old 10-09-2019, 07:04 AM   #33
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My 1979 Boler B1700RGH has a storage bin on each end of the rear bed (each side of the trailer), taking that space and making it useful. Since that trailer is only the width of an Escape 19', and the bed is not Queen length, feet and pillows can overlap onto the storage bin space.
Yes, I would find having similar storage space for a few small items such as reading glasses, watches, books, etc. helpful in the bed area. It's about the only thing we find lacking in the current 19 layout. I've seen several very nicely implemented mods shared on this forum , and when I get the nerve up to drill that first hole in a new and nicely finished trailer I'll be adding something myself.

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Old 10-09-2019, 09:20 AM   #34
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Have they posted the proposed 23 layout

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Old 10-09-2019, 09:35 AM   #35
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A ‘crawl-over’ bed is a deal breaker for us.
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Might have missed it, but wonder where the batteries will go. It would be a mess for them to stay in the rear under a queen bed.
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Old 10-09-2019, 10:28 AM   #37
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Our experience is that the best, most private and unobstructed view is out the back windows.
Offer an optional flipped plan and it could work with us.

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I would say the same thing.
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Might have missed it, but wonder where the batteries will go. It would be a mess for them to stay in the rear under a queen bed.
I assume the converter would be moved forward like the current 19 layout has. With this move it would probably make sense to have the batteries on the tongue or in the front box (if elected) also like the current 19.
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Old 10-09-2019, 10:49 AM   #39
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I think it's great that you are willing to share the newest layout, and even more importantly that you're reading and responding to the comments.

Keep up the communication. We're all anxious to see details on this one and whatever else you can share.

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Old 10-09-2019, 10:53 AM   #40
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With the u shaped dinette, it might sit 6 bums but not host 12 legs
It's snug at 6, but still comfortable. The sales team was stilling comfortably in it 3 to a side last week as we did the intial walkthrough.
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