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Old 03-12-2023, 03:44 PM   #281
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I've introduced the concept of "mock up" to classes of engineering students with CAD skills now far beyond mine and they were quick to grasp the concept.

Using wood, 1/8" plywood, cardboard and lots of hot melt glue can create a 3D model that provides much more "real life" feedback than any computer model can.
That's a classic mock-up, showing the size and shape of the proposed product... and it's very useful. It's different from a prototype, which is a fully functional product made like the production item will be.
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Old 03-12-2023, 04:11 PM   #282
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Personally I would like the stove and possible splatter or mist as far away from the bedding as possible. So the stove near the door would be my preference.
And I prefer it by the door as it is then useful to pull out the faucet and fill things outside if needed. Or when we don't have a sewer hookup sometimes we keep a bucket outside the door and empty dishwater (or clear water from waiting for the water to heat up etc.) into that to reduce impact to our gray tank. Also I do most of my messy cooking outside where possible. So the stove messes are minimal for me.

There are pluses and minuses to every option.
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Old 03-12-2023, 04:39 PM   #283
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When we were originally looking at campers we liked the layout of the Lance 2075 because of the front bed and the rear dinette but we didn't want a 25' trailer. We also like the Airstream 25 FB Twin but those were far outside of our realm.

The bigger kitchen prep space in the 23 is nice compared to the Lance and I'm not overly concern about the size of the dinette for just two people. A card game of 4 and it starts getting small quickly.

We found the Escape 21C as a perfect middle ground. But the 23 video looks like a nice compromise from the 25' crowd.
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Old 03-12-2023, 06:59 PM   #284
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. . . As to the dry bath problem I wonder if something like the wet/dry bath with pivoting wall used in the might be an interesting compromise.
That's a neat idea. Probably would take more space overall than the 21C wet bath, but maybe not a whole lot more. Would likely appeal to me!

Maybe suggest it to Karl?
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Old 03-13-2023, 07:53 AM   #285
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That's a neat idea. Probably would take more space overall than the 21C wet bath, but maybe not a whole lot more. Would likely appeal to me!

Maybe suggest it to Karl?
I did last year when I pointed out the lack of counter space in all the early layouts - never got a reply...
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Old 03-13-2023, 08:09 AM   #286
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I personally don't care for looking in the door at my bed. I also have been working on using the table as a "office". So nicer days sit & watch the world from there(keep an eye on my aussies if in an exercise pen outside). As far as a smaller bed, I did this. Now a Full with storage for bedding & my rolled up jeans mostly. "Sailboat type" holding for things on top. As I'm one for changing from work pants to dresser to be seen in Public. It can/will come out into my new one. All my work on the raised dinning has to stay with old
I like the look of those storage along the tops, is there a source?
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