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Old 12-21-2019, 07:10 AM   #1
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I just received an Xmas email from ETI stating that 440 more Escapes were built this year.

Wonder how many total have been built. anyone know/ guess?
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I was wondering exactly the same thing.

My guess 3710

Arrived at with no math skills, or inside information. I guessed.
If they started production in 2004 at 20 trailers ( a guess ) and increased production yearly since then that would look something like this.

2004 - 20
2005 - 30
2006 - 50
2007 - 75
2008 - 100
2009 - 150
2010 - 200
2011 - 225
2012 - 250
2013 - 300
2014 - 325
2015 - 350
2016 - 375
2017 - 400
2018 - 420
2019 - 440
Total 3710

Whatever the number, a far smaller group than I first thought.
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Old 12-21-2019, 09:23 AM   #3
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I think you are a little high, back in 2012 they were doing something like 2/week until they expanded in 2016 and now it is double that....used to take 2 weeks to complete, now about a week. A lot slower than the SOB's which take about 10 hours....
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Old 12-21-2019, 12:10 PM   #4
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I saw that number posted by Karl on Facebook as well.
Great numbers since there was a change in ownership and a fire that destroyed a building including phone and internet lines.

https://www.theprogress.com/news/lat...in-chilliwack/

I was thinking of a few other numbers like over 2,000 wheels and how many of the little screws with the brown caps?
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Old 12-21-2019, 12:26 PM   #5
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Still 440 units in a year is approaching 2/per day or 10/week. That is a lot for custom units...
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Old 12-21-2019, 01:41 PM   #6
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I saw that number posted by Karl on Facebook as well.
Great numbers since there was a change in ownership and a fire that destroyed a building including phone and internet lines.

https://www.theprogress.com/news/lat...in-chilliwack/

I was thinking of a few other numbers like over 2,000 wheels and how many of the little screws with the brown caps?
Counting components could = a trailer. Not an exercise I would care to undertake.
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Old 12-21-2019, 02:00 PM   #7
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For more than a decade, Escape just incremented the serial portion of the VIN (the last three digits) with each trailer, in a continuous series regardless of year until they ran out (had built 999) and started again from zero. The company was started in 2002, and passed the 1,000 mark late in 2014 or early in 2015 (I'm not sure), with the production rate ramping up during that period, but not linearly; Ross's estimated progression has the rate way too high in the middle years. Now they start the serial numbers from zero each year, so if you have the last one built in a year you know how many they built that year.

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2002-2014: 1,000
2015-2016: >200/year
2017-2019: >400/year
total: >2200

Since they built about 1200 before 2016, which was the year of transition from the first generation with the original body style to the second generation with the vertical sides, roughly half of all Escapes built to this point are of each generation.

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I think you are a little high, back in 2012 they were doing something like 2/week until they expanded in 2016 and now it is double that....used to take 2 weeks to complete, now about a week. A lot slower than the SOB's which take about 10 hours....
The rate was one completed per day, doubled to two per day by the expansion. Of course now there are several trailers in various stages of completion at a time, so any given trailer takes a while from first spraying gelcoat into the mould until it rolls out the door; completing two a day does not mean they take half a day to make. The photos provided by Escape to owners during construction should indicate the pace for an individual trailer, if they have date stamps, although they only start when there is a recognizable complete shell so they don't cover the first day or two; my understanding is that the messages from Escape indicate when construction starts and when it is complete.
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I thought back when I got mine in 14 it was 2 a week like Jim mentioned.
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I thought back when I got mine in 14 it was 2 a week like Jim mentioned.
Two trailers a week would be only 100 per year - while they would have been very happy to have achieved that rate in the early years, they had built (or at least incremented the serial number by) over 100 between January and June of 2014.
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Two trailers a week would be only 100 per year - while they would have been very happy to have achieved that rate in the early years, they had built (or at least incremented the serial number by) over 100 between January and June of 2014.
How did you arrive at this conclusion, are the s/n someplace posted?
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Old 12-21-2019, 05:21 PM   #11
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Not that it’s all that significant but it would not be too hard to correlate completion dates known with serial numbers known and home in on the continuum with pretty good accuracy. Our 2013 21 was picked up by the original owner in September or October of 2013. It is number 766. So that’s a reference point to start with. It was the #6 21 built after they were introduced
and were promoted by Reace and Tammy after the Escape Rally in 2013.
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How did you arrive at this conclusion, are the s/n someplace posted?
A bunch of people have shared VINs over the years (including Escape in their own for sale ads), and I was curious so I kept a list. Iowa Dave's 2013 21' fits right in.
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I had #12 E21 hatched in late November,2013, my 2014 Escape Blackjack #831
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A bunch of people have shared VINs over the years (including Escape in their own for sale ads), and I was curious so I kept a list.
good to know.....
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If it's the last 3 digits then mine's 894 for a May 14 manufacture. The 6th 5.0TA FWIW.
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So that equates to 60 units for 6 months or a little more than 2/week....
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If it's the last 3 digits then mine's 894 for a May 14 manufacture. The 6th 5.0TA FWIW.
We were 792 in Nov 2013 . Pat
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Was that your pick up date or date of manufacture? My number 831 crossed into Sumas on 11/29/2013
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Was that your pick up date or date of manufacture? My number 831 crossed into Sumas on 11/29/2013
We have the 19 Jim . Tammy told me the last 3 numbers was how many made . We picked up Nov 14 2013 . It was maybe finished a few days before . Pat
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Actually it appears mine was completed Nov 8, 2013 as that is the date certificate of origin. So yours must be a little earlier by couple of weeks to be 39 units earlier in sequence.
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