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Old 02-11-2015, 07:56 PM   #1
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Furnace change on Escape 21 a shocker

We just received this news from Escape trailers. It is quite a shocker, because it means we give up 2 drawers. What do others who have ordered a 21 think. I expect Reace and Tammy have done their best to look for other suitable replacements of the same size.

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To Whom it May Concern,

Effective February 11, 2015 the furnace (Atwood Model #8012) we have been using is no longer available.

This furnace has been replaced with a new higher efficiency furnace (Atwood Model #AFSAD12). This new furnace is slightly larger and in the 21’ Escape we have had no other option but to relocate it to the 3 – drawer cabinet located on the driver’s side at the foot of the bed. By relocating the furnace to this cabinet we have had to delete the two center drawers as shown in the attached photo.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

Please feel free to forward any questions you may have.

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Old 02-11-2015, 08:11 PM   #2
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Unfortunate that you lose some drawer space but I think you'll still have plenty of storage.
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Old 02-11-2015, 08:18 PM   #3
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Many people are thrilled to have the amount of storage in the 21. Having come from a larger trailer, we were aware that storage would be significantly less in our Escape, especially with the stove/range option. This change means even 2 fewer drawers. We will manage, but we sure are disappointed.

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Old 02-11-2015, 08:29 PM   #4
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I'm not going to worry about it to much. Living in this trailer for several weeks in Iowa in the early spring and late fall, a higher efficiency furnace probably will be in my favor. I average about 5 weeks a year working with the spring planting and fall harvest. I have complete faith in Reace and Tammy and they do what they have to do. Loren
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So, what's in the space the old furnace would have occupied?
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Old 02-11-2015, 08:47 PM   #6
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I had heard some people mention that the heater near the bed on the 19 could be noisy. So one of the reasons we decided to go with the 21 instead of the 19 was because the bed was away from the heater. I wonder if moving the heater will have any impact on the noise level? If it's more efficient then hopefully it's quieter too. Am I worrying about nothing?
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Old 02-11-2015, 08:52 PM   #7
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So, what's in the space the old furnace would have occupied?
The old space is under the rear dinette. You have to lift a cushion and hinged panel to access the area. Not as convenient.

The good news is the 21' has a ton of storage. Easily twice our old Casita. You have to be careful not to fill it up with stuff you don't need.
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Old 02-11-2015, 09:07 PM   #8
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I wonder if the seats could be raised on the dinette to allow the needed space maybe as an option. It doesn't look very attractive in it's new location as compared to the nice cabinetry. And it's the first thing you see when you walk in the door. I think even if they put it in the bottom of the cabinet rather than the middle, that would help.
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Old 02-11-2015, 09:09 PM   #9
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Old 02-11-2015, 09:13 PM   #10
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Honestly, I think the new position is going to make the entire cabin heat more even. The furnace in the old position was under the rear dinette (?)
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I wonder where the furnace will be going in the 5.0TA?

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Old 02-11-2015, 09:18 PM   #12
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In Ten Forward, it's under the pantry.
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The visual effect is not offensive to my eyes but I do understand the disappointment when something is going to be changed mid-course. The amount of time we spend thinking, visualizing, and planning our Escapes is almost beyond belief (just ask any family member not involved in this process). And then to have something change is almost heartbreaking. So I, for one, understand Bob K's feelings here but believe that by the time delivery takes place, happy campers he and his wife will be.
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In Ten Forward, it's under the pantry.
Wonder if that's where ETI will put the "new and improved" one...
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Old 02-11-2015, 09:22 PM   #15
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Bad feng shui-has to be another option. Looking at that bank of drawers now and it is a great looking cabinet.
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I went to the Atwood site and checked out the specs. Personally I'd be happy to have the new heater wherever it fits. The old style has been waking me up and drawing too much DC power for as long as I can remember.
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Honestly, those that are buying a new build 21'... the furnance will now be more centrally located. Honest. And you may be worried about the visuals (I'm a VISUAL person), but this looks like a good decision. YMMV
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Honestly, I think the new position is going to make the entire cabin heat more even. The furnace in the old position was under the rear dinette (?)
Yah, gotta say, better position for overall heat distribution and more efficient, what's not to like.

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I wonder if the seats could be raised on the dinette to allow the needed space maybe as an option. It doesn't look very attractive in it's new location as compared to the nice cabinetry. And it's the first thing you see when you walk in the door. I think even if they put it in the bottom of the cabinet rather than the middle, that would help.
Those cabinets are what looks so good when you walk into a 21'. That beautiful look is now gone. And the noise by the bed. Not in keeping with Escape's usual at all. One would think they could find a better place. That is a major change.
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Thank you "floating cloud"...
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