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02-11-2015, 07:56 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Surrey, British Columbia
Trailer: 2015 Escape 21
Posts: 699
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Furnace change on Escape 21 a shocker
We just received this news from Escape trailers. It is quite a shocker, because it means we give up 2 drawers. What do others who have ordered a 21 think. I expect Reace and Tammy have done their best to look for other suitable replacements of the same size.
Bob K
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To Whom it May Concern,
Effective February 11, 2015 the furnace (Atwood Model #8012) we have been using is no longer available.
This furnace has been replaced with a new higher efficiency furnace (Atwood Model #AFSAD12). This new furnace is slightly larger and in the 21’ Escape we have had no other option but to relocate it to the 3 – drawer cabinet located on the driver’s side at the foot of the bed. By relocating the furnace to this cabinet we have had to delete the two center drawers as shown in the attached photo.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
Please feel free to forward any questions you may have.
Tammy Harmatuik, Business Manager
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02-11-2015, 08:11 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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Unfortunate that you lose some drawer space but I think you'll still have plenty of storage.
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02-11-2015, 08:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Surrey, British Columbia
Trailer: 2015 Escape 21
Posts: 699
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Many people are thrilled to have the amount of storage in the 21. Having come from a larger trailer, we were aware that storage would be significantly less in our Escape, especially with the stove/range option. This change means even 2 fewer drawers. We will manage, but we sure are disappointed.
Bob K
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02-11-2015, 08:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Olathe, Kansas
Trailer: 2015 21ft Escape "Spirit of the Plains", 2014 GMC Sierra with max tow package
Posts: 1,100
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I'm not going to worry about it to much. Living in this trailer for several weeks in Iowa in the early spring and late fall, a higher efficiency furnace probably will be in my favor. I average about 5 weeks a year working with the spring planting and fall harvest. I have complete faith in Reace and Tammy and they do what they have to do. Loren
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02-11-2015, 08:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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So, what's in the space the old furnace would have occupied?
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02-11-2015, 08:47 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Sacramento area, California
Trailer: 2015 Escape 21
Posts: 524
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I had heard some people mention that the heater near the bed on the 19 could be noisy. So one of the reasons we decided to go with the 21 instead of the 19 was because the bed was away from the heater. I wonder if moving the heater will have any impact on the noise level? If it's more efficient then hopefully it's quieter too. Am I worrying about nothing?
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02-11-2015, 08:52 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Jeromesville, Ohio
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21' pulled with 2014 Silverado Crewcab
Posts: 853
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
So, what's in the space the old furnace would have occupied?
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The old space is under the rear dinette. You have to lift a cushion and hinged panel to access the area. Not as convenient.
The good news is the 21' has a ton of storage. Easily twice our old Casita. You have to be careful not to fill it up with stuff you don't need.
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02-11-2015, 09:07 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Sacramento area, California
Trailer: 2015 Escape 21
Posts: 524
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I wonder if the seats could be raised on the dinette to allow the needed space maybe as an option. It doesn't look very attractive in it's new location as compared to the nice cabinetry. And it's the first thing you see when you walk in the door. I think even if they put it in the bottom of the cabinet rather than the middle, that would help.
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02-11-2015, 09:09 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Bellingham and Glacier, Washington
Trailer: 2013 Escape 15A
Posts: 2,051
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Old configuration...
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2013 Escape 15A, "Egbert"
'93 Ford 150 XLT or
'22 GMC Acadia Denali
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02-11-2015, 09:13 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,023
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Honestly, I think the new position is going to make the entire cabin heat more even. The furnace in the old position was under the rear dinette (?)
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Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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02-11-2015, 09:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Southern Alberta, Alberta
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0TA
Posts: 1,734
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I wonder where the furnace will be going in the 5.0TA?
Cheers
Doug
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Cheers
Doug
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02-11-2015, 09:18 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,023
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In Ten Forward, it's under the pantry.
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Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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02-11-2015, 09:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Bellingham and Glacier, Washington
Trailer: 2013 Escape 15A
Posts: 2,051
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The visual effect is not offensive to my eyes but I do understand the disappointment when something is going to be changed mid-course. The amount of time we spend thinking, visualizing, and planning our Escapes is almost beyond belief (just ask any family member not involved in this process). And then to have something change is almost heartbreaking. So I, for one, understand Bob K's feelings here but believe that by the time delivery takes place, happy campers he and his wife will be.
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2013 Escape 15A, "Egbert"
'93 Ford 150 XLT or
'22 GMC Acadia Denali
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02-11-2015, 09:20 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Southern Alberta, Alberta
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0TA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
In Ten Forward, it's under the pantry.
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Wonder if that's where ETI will put the "new and improved" one...
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Doug
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02-11-2015, 09:22 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: SLO County, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21C 2019 Expedition
Posts: 5,210
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Bad feng shui-has to be another option. Looking at that bank of drawers now and it is a great looking cabinet.
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02-11-2015, 09:43 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Port Angeles, Washington
Trailer: 2014 19'
Posts: 534
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I went to the Atwood site and checked out the specs. Personally I'd be happy to have the new heater wherever it fits. The old style has been waking me up and drawing too much DC power for as long as I can remember.
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02-11-2015, 09:44 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,023
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Honestly, those that are buying a new build 21'... the furnance will now be more centrally located. Honest. And you may be worried about the visuals (I'm a VISUAL person), but this looks like a good decision. YMMV
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Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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02-11-2015, 09:45 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,743
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Honestly, I think the new position is going to make the entire cabin heat more even. The furnace in the old position was under the rear dinette (?)
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Yah, gotta say, better position for overall heat distribution and more efficient, what's not to like.
Ron
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02-11-2015, 09:46 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Denison, Texas
Trailer: 2015 21'; 2011 19' sold; 4Runner; ph ninezero3 327-27ninefour
Posts: 5,136
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jill
I wonder if the seats could be raised on the dinette to allow the needed space maybe as an option. It doesn't look very attractive in it's new location as compared to the nice cabinetry. And it's the first thing you see when you walk in the door. I think even if they put it in the bottom of the cabinet rather than the middle, that would help.
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Those cabinets are what looks so good when you walk into a 21'. That beautiful look is now gone. And the noise by the bed. Not in keeping with Escape's usual at all. One would think they could find a better place. That is a major change.
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02-11-2015, 10:01 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Beaumont, Alberta
Trailer: 2015 - 21'
Posts: 24
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Thank you "floating cloud"...
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