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Old 07-26-2014, 03:38 PM   #41
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Hi: FMLNM... It's too hard to retro fit a small plastic grill over a large hole. Alf
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Thanks - I didn't know what size the new plastic grill was....
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Old 07-26-2014, 03:51 PM   #42
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I'll check that out Robert, thanks. I was thinking of painting with Fusion. But the 303 may work just as well and be easier to use/apply?
Paint is mainly cosmetic, and works fine when a part needs restoring. The 303 prevents the damage that required the painting in the first place.

Or, as I've heard you say, "an ounce of prevention...."
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Old 07-26-2014, 03:57 PM   #43
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Actually Robert, Fusion paint is used as a preventative measure too. Slow down the UV damage is what it's designed for. I know D&K painted the propane tank cover on their 21', not only to protect it but to change from bright white to something that matches the gelcoat.

But, I'd rather not paint if something else will work too.
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Actually Robert, Fusion paint is used as a preventative measure too. Slow down the UV damage is what it's designed for. I know D&K painted the propane tank cover on their 21', not only to protect it but to change from bright white to something that matches the gelcoat.

But, I'd rather not paint if something else will work too.
Fully aware of its protective properties Donna. I was a chem formulator/colorist for a paint company in the SLC area in a former life. All paint has protective properties that vary with the opacity, film thickness, gloss and chemical composition. But, in this case, while it will slow or prevent further breakdown, it will not restore oxidized plastic. 303, as I mentioned earlier, prevents the oxidation and UV breakdown.
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Reace, we also appreciate your efforts to become a refrigeration tech and the time you are spending on holiday trying to resolve this issue.
Our experience so far is marginal, camping in northern Michigan. Temp outside is 65 Fahrenheit. Had infrared gun in truck for checking wheel bearings whirl traveling.
Inside frig temp is 45 F and inside freezer is 16 F. Running on LP.
A week ago we precooled refrig for two days, filled freezer with already frozen food and put a frozen gallon jug of water in the refrig part.
Am also cautious to keep food away from fins for air circulation.
An inside frig fan seems to be a positive thing.

Any reports from owners on how they like the Smart RV Frig Fix Fan?
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Old 07-26-2014, 08:07 PM   #46
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It was easy to install and based on preliminary tests, on 120v and an empty unit, it helps to reduce the interior temperature. I have not had a chance to fill with food and try it on the road under propane.
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Old 07-26-2014, 09:00 PM   #47
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IOHO... Consider this... Our species has learnt that since discovering fire, it is easier to warm ourselves than to cool oneself. That's why civilization has evolved from more moderate climes.

So my Canuck & American colleagues that live in the hotter (& muggier) climes, I don't believe that there is a technical fix for the problem that some have been experiencing.

Here is what we suggest:

1) Make sure the trailer is level side to side & front to back

2) Carry no less than two (2) large frozen jell packs in the top portion of the freezer

3) Any free space in the fridge portion should be filled with cans (soda, beer, etc.) assuring that used ones are replaced ASAP with others

4) Run the A/C to cool the inside of the trailer... Remember that... In Bangkok, at twelve o'clock... only mad dogs & Englishmen go out into the Midday Sun... thus park in the shade when ever possible...

5) If all of the above doesn't work (sorry Dave in Texas), find cooler places to RV...

6) Finally, if all else fails... PRAY...

But then again, what do we know... we're just newbies...

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I wonder if the Dometic refers in the Casitas that Reace inspected at Brandon are the same models used by ETI.
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Old 07-26-2014, 09:19 PM   #49
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I wonder if the Dometic refers in the Casitas that Reace inspected at Brandon are the same models used by ETI.
May be for the smaller size, but certainly not for the big one. Casita doesn't put that big of a frig in any of their models. And, all you have to do is read the CasitaForum to know those owners have issues too. There's tons of "computer fan" solutions to read there.
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May be for the smaller size, but certainly not for the big one. Casita doesn't put that big of a frig in any of their models. And, all you have to do is read the CasitaForum to know those owners have issues too. There's tons of "computer fan" solutions to read there.
No, not the same. They use the RM 2300 and 2400 series. They offer 1.9 and 4.0 CF models I believe.
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Reace stated that the Casita owners were satisfied with their refers. Post 1. Does size matter ?
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Reace stated that the Casita owners were satisfied with their refers. Post 1. Does size matter ?
The group that came to the Oregon Gathering from Texas and Arizona (I believe) all had modified their refrigerators with extra computer fans. Gene Layton (webmaster of CasitaForum) was the first to do it years ago. They all follow along and it's one of the items Larry Gamble does at Little House Customs. So being "satisfied" may be a stretch...
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Kinda glad I have the older 5.0 cf fridge. Other than having to fix the latch on it, it has performed great for us, even in hot climates, with no trickery to keep it cold. The only thing we have added is one of those small cube fans to keep temps even inside.
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Old 07-27-2014, 02:40 AM   #54
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The group that came to the Oregon Gathering from Texas and Arizona (I believe) all had modified their refrigerators with extra computer fans. Gene Layton (webmaster of CasitaForum) was the first to do it years ago. They all follow along and it's one of the items Larry Gamble does at Little House Customs. So being "satisfied" may be a stretch...
Just started on CasitaForum: keeping the fridge cool the never ending quest, you have to be a member to read it. Basically, two computer fans wired for temporary use when the outside vent is propped open and covered with Reflectix. Thread was started by someone living in South Carolina.

This is a universal problem....
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"So being "satisfied" may be a stretch"
OK, Reace said "quite happy"
Still have to wonder why some and not others.
We are happy that now only one cooler with ice is needed.
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"So being "satisfied" may be a stretch"
OK, Reace said "quite happy"
Still have to wonder why some and not others.
We are happy that now only one cooler with ice is needed.
We had a 2005 Casita with a fridge of comparable size to that in our 2012 19'. We usually set it on 3 and walked away. We had no trouble with it maintaining temperature (except in extreme heat) and certainly not the difficulty we've had with our current fridge. I can't speak for others, but I can say we never had the type of issues we're having now. I assumed the quality of the new Dometic fridges was the issue and am really glad Reace is looking into it.
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The group that came to the Oregon Gathering from Texas and Arizona (I believe) all had modified their refrigerators with extra computer fans. Gene Layton (webmaster of CasitaForum) was the first to do it years ago. They all follow along and it's one of the items Larry Gamble does at Little House Customs. So being "satisfied" may be a stretch...
I started using a battery powered fan inside and immediately noticed a difference. Initial cool down went from 6-8 hours down to 1 or 2. Problem is tho that once inside gets cold, the batteries stop working until they heat up a little again. Hard wiring seems to be the answer!

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We have the 19' with the 6.7 cft fridge and the "Texas fan". During our June two-week trip to Yellowstone, I monitored the temperature closely because of all the issues surrounding the Dometic. Temps ranged from 32F at night to around 75F in the day and the refrigerator maintained a temperature of 35-38F deg ... in partial sun. Frozen food certainly stayed frozen. An earlier week-long trip close to home where the daytime temps hovered at about 75-80 deg F produced the same results ... and we were in direct sun. The fact that some are maintaining their temps while others are not gives credence to the suspicion that it might be a defective part.
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Kinda glad I have the older 5.0 cf fridge. Other than having to fix the latch on it, it has performed great for us, even in hot climates, with no trickery to keep it cold. The only thing we have added is one of those small cube fans to keep temps even inside.
Agreed Jim.. The 5 cf fridge has been good to me also. My only problem with it is I can't use it on shore power in the colder shoulder season months.. I have to run it on LP or EVERYTHING in the fridge freezes

I must admit I was smitten when I first saw the current 19 on a visit to ETI. The roof vent, no upper wall vent, the cool blue led interior lighting.. I've managed to get over that with the help of this forum
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Hi: All... I don't know if I'm changing camps on the fridge issue, but we had cooling trouble on the trip home from Ottawa. Seems the kill switch got turned off somehow and we traveled an hour or so before stopping at Balderston Cheese Store. Went to put away the cheese and no power to the fridge. No lights and 50*F inside. Turned the power back on and ran propane all the way home, but the fridge never recovered!!!
Once home changed to 120V and next am. the temp at the front edge of the top shelf was 34*F. Started a Fridge Log and time will tell. Alf
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