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Old 07-08-2024, 01:59 PM   #21
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Hi justarida, This is group forum, not affiliated with Escape Trailer, but to answer your question, the 2” bike rack you are referring to has a maximum weight rating of 200 lbs.. This includes the total weight of the rack, bike(s) and accessories. Some Escape owners have individually reinforced the rack and rear frame assembly, and have exceeded the 200 lb. limit, but the factory mount is 200 lbs.
Thanks for the response, I will ask Escape directly. I assumed an affiliation with this forum.
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Old 07-16-2024, 08:24 AM   #22
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The Escape 23 could benefit from a dry bath.
Yup, I'd put a deposit down today if I could get a dry bath. I'd write a check for the full amount if I could get a dry bath and two twin beds up front similar to the airstream.

Oh well, I'll just buy something inexpensive in the meantime and see what happens in the next 5 years or so.
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Old 07-16-2024, 09:36 AM   #23
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The Escape 23 could benefit from a dry bath.
In my opinion the best thing they did while designing the 23 was to eliminate the dry bath. It is much more open and roomy. The galley is way better too. I have had a dry baths in a couple trailers and there really was no benefit to it and it took up lots of valuable space as they were not real big trailers.

To each their own though and some do prefer dry baths for their own reasons. I just much prefer the added storage space and openness a wet bath provides, plus it does everything you need in a bath.

Now, if it was a big behemoth......
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Old 07-16-2024, 12:13 PM   #24
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In my opinion the best thing they did while designing the 23 was to eliminate the dry bath. It is much more open and roomy. The galley is way better too. I have had a dry baths in a couple trailers and there really was no benefit to it and it took up lots of valuable space as they were not real big trailers.

To each their own though and some do prefer dry baths for their own reasons. I just much prefer the added storage space and openness a wet bath provides, plus it does everything you need in a bath.

Now, if it was a big behemoth......
I agree. When I first saw the early drawings with the dry bath I cringed. It looked like a rabbit warren.

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Old 07-16-2024, 02:07 PM   #25
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Ugh, dry baths in small trailers. For every inch put into a dry bath (shower) that space has to come from somewhere. I'd rather have than more storage over something used for mere minutes a day or even less. It doesn't take long for me to wipe down the wet bath in Ten Forward. Easy/peasy!
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Old 07-16-2024, 02:10 PM   #26
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I agree. When I first saw the early drawings with the dry bath I cringed. It looked like a rabbit warren.

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I know that a wet baths are show-stoppers for a lot of potential customers....but don't personally understand the aversion. After walking through a 23, I think the change to a wet bath greatly contributes to the open and spacious feeling inside a trailer that retains a "smallish" footprint (compared to conventional trailers with slides in the same size range).

I live in my E19 3-4 days/week during the summer season....and have absolutely no issues with the wet bath. It takes me less then 5min to thoroughly clean up after a shower.
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Old 07-16-2024, 06:49 PM   #27
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What the heck is a dry bath anyway?
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Old 07-16-2024, 07:24 PM   #28
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I know that a wet baths are show-stoppers for a lot of potential customers....but don't personally understand the aversion. After walking through a 23, I think the change to a wet bath greatly contributes to the open and spacious feeling inside a trailer that retains a "smallish" footprint (compared to conventional trailers with slides in the same size range).

I live in my E19 3-4 days/week during the summer season....and have absolutely no issues with the wet bath. It takes me less then 5min to thoroughly clean up after a shower.
Yeah, agreed. To me, a wet bath is actually an advantage. It doesn't waste as much space as a dry bath, and it's very easy to keep clean. I just wipe down (or scrub if necessary) everything with a sponge, and then I can just rinse / wash the entire bathroom with the sprayer!

It's like having a decontamination shower right in your trailer.
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Old 07-16-2024, 07:25 PM   #29
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What the heck is a dry bath anyway?
Shower is in a separate room from the toilet. IF combined, it's called a 'wet bath.'
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Old 07-16-2024, 07:27 PM   #30
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Shower is in a separate room from the toilet. IF combined, it's called a 'wet bath.'

So, the bathroom in my house is a wet bath?
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Old 07-16-2024, 07:56 PM   #31
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So, the bathroom in my house is a wet bath?
ROFL, if you don't use a shower curtain or shower doors
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Old 07-16-2024, 08:24 PM   #32
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I guess I rank a dry bath ahead of a king bed in preferred options. I found the wet bath ceiling height low in our old E19 and ended up preferring to use the showers at the campgrounds if they had them. We hike a lot and like to have a comfortable shower at the end of the day.
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I much prefer a dry bath. I’ve owned both over the years. Our last 18’ trailer had a dry bath, but had a Murphy bed over the table meaning we can’t have a bed left made permanently. We wanted a separate bed and table, but we don’t want the restrictions of where we can go with a larger trailer. So E19. It works well, but I can understand why some people want a larger dry bath.
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I'm really happy to see the new king bed option being offered. That would be my choice, if I were to ever upgrade to a 23.

My primary criticism with the 23 was the 74" walk-around "short queen" bed. Up to now, the twin bed option was the only alternative for tall people to get an 80" long mattress.

I also think this new layout also gives the 23 an advantage over the 25' Bigfoot and makes it much more competitive with Oliver in terms of bed size.
I'm only 5' 9" and Terry 5' 4" so the short queen works for us. It's great that Escape offers options for the bed. If we ever get a 23 I'd want to see if the queen bed can fit in the east/west configuration. We'd lose 4" from our Bigfoot bed, but could get some of that back by cutting the bed length down to 70-72".

We had no problems with the wet bath in our 2018 5.0. We now have a Bigfoot 25RQ with a dry bath. I prefer the wet bath, giving more room for storage. Terry prefers the dry bath of the Bigfoot. Even so, had the Escape 23 been out when we changed from the 5.0 to the 25RQ we would have purchased the 23.

Now if Escape would just make a 25 foot 5.0 we'd sell the 25RQ in a heartbeat for the larger 5.0 as long as it still had a wet bath. I really miss the dinette at the rear of the camper.

Food for thought,

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I guess I rank a dry bath ahead of a king bed in preferred options. I found the wet bath ceiling height low in our old E19 and ended up preferring to use the showers at the campgrounds if they had them. We hike a lot and like to have a comfortable shower at the end of the day.
I'll take better bed accommodations over a dry bath all day long. I can put up with whatever inconvenience a wet bath may have, but I don't tolerate bad sleep very well. I get pretty grumpy when I don't sleep well.
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We had no interest in replacing our 21C with a dry bath 23. Every time looked at the drawings with the interior looking like a maze, I cringed.

When we saw the prototype at the 23 rally with the wet bath and more interior room than any 23-25 ft. trailer I had looked at, we were sold. We came home and put the 21C up for sale, ordered the 23Q and things have been great ever since.

If I never see a dry bath in a small trailer again, it will be too soon.
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