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06-12-2019, 03:03 PM
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#41
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: London, Ontario
Trailer: 2020 Escape 19
Posts: 1,123
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60% to much for the Rockies.
2018 we did a trip from London Ontario to Los Angeles and back. I was around 60% and wouldn’t temp the Rockies again without a Diesel. I was setup properly and felt I had to push way beyond what I was comfortable with. I ended up in heavy traffic going up the Ike to Eisenhower tunnel, held it to the floor for minutes. Not really good for the longevity of the 4Runner. Around Ontario it was fine, it’s the altitude people don’t talk about when towing. I am between trailers right now, hoping for a 5.0TA in the next 3 years, just waiting to see how this new Duramax plays out and 2 teenagers to grow up.
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Had a Trillium and 2 Escapes, 17b, 19, no trailer in the driveway now.
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06-12-2019, 03:07 PM
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#42
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: London, Ontario
Trailer: 2020 Escape 19
Posts: 1,123
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Northern Lights
My friend from work has been dreaming of a Northern Lights Truck camper for years, he says their way way way out of his price range. Why $75000?
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Had a Trillium and 2 Escapes, 17b, 19, no trailer in the driveway now.
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06-12-2019, 05:31 PM
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#43
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: merritt, North Carolina
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21 w/Maple interior
Posts: 23
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At the rally Karl (president?) told Carol and me that it will be a 23 ‘ Escape with a walk around queen bed and a dry bath. Out in about a year is the plan. That is from the horses mouth. He said they are still in the very early design stages. He also mentioned that the plan was to get production from 600ish to about 1200- 1500 units a year.
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06-12-2019, 06:15 PM
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#44
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: DFW, Texas
Trailer: 2018 21 Sept 7 2018
Posts: 1,073
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There goes individual customization. Personal choices and want will greatly be limited. Seen it happen to several companies
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06-12-2019, 06:23 PM
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#45
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,671
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldtimer
There goes individual customization. Personal choices and want will greatly be limited. Seen it happen to several companies
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Where did you hear this?
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2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
“Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.” — Abraham Lincoln
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06-12-2019, 07:29 PM
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#46
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: merritt, North Carolina
Trailer: 2019 Escape 21 w/Maple interior
Posts: 23
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The information came from Karl at the 2019 Osoyoos rally. I believe Karl introduced himself as the president. After he found out we just picked up a new 21 he came to our trailer and my wife Carol and I had a nice conversation with him. Spoke for about 45 mins. Karl asked us many questions about the 21. That is when he told us about the new 23 and ramping up production.
I stressed to Karl that the main reason we decided on an Escape was the QUALITY! As a side note we picked up our Escape on May 3rd. We just arrived home in NC today. Put over 4000 miles on it. We have not had any issues at all with the trailer. Everything worked and continues to work. We couldn’t be happier.
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06-12-2019, 08:32 PM
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#47
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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sailjoe: Great, you may now want to update your avatar to show ownership, thanks.
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Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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06-24-2019, 07:07 PM
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#48
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Mount Horeb, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2023 5.0 TA
Posts: 150
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One of the aspects of the Escape brands that I like is that they aren't the huge what I call diaper-mobiles 'cuz I'd need to wear one to tow one. Though I can appreciate folks getting excited about a 23' Escape I want the other direction. When the time is right I'm hoping to get a used 5.0, not 5.0TA. I took to heart a post by Donna Dee about while you are waiting for possibly that perfect floor plane to come out there is a whole lot of camping that can be done now. My circumstances mean I have to just wait for a used 5.0 however until that day here is what I'd love to see with the combination of NorthernLite and Escape. Take NorthernLite's largest truck camper and place it on a 5th wheel frame. Leave the foot print of the truck camper alone. Extend the side walls of the camper down to the level of the floor however in the now enclosed cavity where the side walls of the truck bed used to be build out externally accessed storage compartments. These compartments could be outfitted like many trailers in Australia. Just my 2 cents.
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06-24-2019, 09:28 PM
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#49
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2015 Escape 17A
Posts: 2,367
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
When did the 80 per cent rule become the 60 per cent rule? Why not 40 per cent?
- Rule of thumb, a principle with broad application that is not intended to be strictly accurate or reliable for every situation
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It'still 80%: I have an Escape 17, so if you take the length (`17') divide it by the width (6'8"), multiply by Pi x 10, you get 80%. So, my tow, at 3500 lb. capacity tows my Escape (2100 lb.) with 700 lbs. of stuff in it, and I'm right at 2800/3500 = 80%. I'm good.
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06-24-2019, 10:06 PM
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#50
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
Posts: 17,136
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I knew I should have stayed in school.
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What happens to the hole when the cheese is gone?
- Bertolt Brecht
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06-24-2019, 10:18 PM
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#51
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,671
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dfandrews
It'still 80%: I have an Escape 17, so if you take the length (`17') divide it by the width (6'8"), multiply by Pi x 10, you get 80%. So, my tow, at 3500 lb. capacity tows my Escape (2100 lb.) with 700 lbs. of stuff in it, and I'm right at 2800/3500 = 80%. I'm good.
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I'm afraid you are overloaded given your own parameters by nearly 1%.
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2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
“Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.” — Abraham Lincoln
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06-24-2019, 10:31 PM
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#52
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Site Team
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Mid Left Coast, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21
Posts: 5,466
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dfandrews
It'still 80%: I have an Escape 17, so if you take the length (`17') divide it by the width (6'8"), multiply by Pi x 10, you get 80%. So, my tow, at 3500 lb. capacity tows my Escape (2100 lb.) with 700 lbs. of stuff in it, and I'm right at 2800/3500 = 80%. I'm good.
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my casita 16 was 2100-2200 lbs dry. hard to believe an escape 17 is only 2100 lbs.
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06-25-2019, 11:36 AM
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#53
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Santa Cruz, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19
Posts: 755
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Truck Camper v Trailer...the best of both worlds?
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2019 Tundra CrewMax Limited TRD 4WD
2014 Escape 19
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06-25-2019, 12:02 PM
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#54
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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Wait, that looks like a fifth wheel set up......
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Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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06-25-2019, 12:08 PM
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#55
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2015 Escape 17A
Posts: 2,367
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John in Santa Cruz
my casita 16 was 2100-2200 lbs dry. hard to believe an escape 17 is only 2100 lbs.
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John,
Ours is a 17A, so it has no grey nor black tanks, and no bathroom (just a very convenient porta-potty in a cabinet under the bed). So, we are just under 2000 lbs. dry.
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06-25-2019, 12:10 PM
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#56
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2015 Escape 17A
Posts: 2,367
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
I'm afraid you are overloaded given your own parameters by nearly 1%.
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Ok, OK; so I'll leave the bass and bass amp at home, but I'm still taking the acoustic guitar and the smaller (and very light) Yamaha keyboard. So there!
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06-25-2019, 12:22 PM
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#57
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 11,277
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Quote:
Originally Posted by santacruzer
Truck Camper v Trailer...the best of both worlds?
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Better than taking a 5th wheel and trying to turn it into a trailer. Can you believe this thing? And yes, it left the service station and got on Hwy I-40 in Arkansas!
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Donna D.
Ten Forward
2014 Escape 5.0TA
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06-25-2019, 12:40 PM
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#58
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Trailer: 2017 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 15,671
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dfandrews
Ok, OK; so I'll leave the bass and bass amp at home, but I'm still taking the acoustic guitar and the smaller (and very light) Yamaha keyboard. So there!
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Great plan
I'll meet you at the campfire with my guitar.
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2017 Escape 5.0 TA
2015 Ford F150 Lariat 3.5L EcoBoost
2009 Escape 19 (previous)
“Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.” — Abraham Lincoln
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06-25-2019, 12:52 PM
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#59
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Ventura County, California
Trailer: 2015 Escape 17A
Posts: 2,367
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Bennett
Great plan
I'll meet you at the campfire with my guitar.
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06-25-2019, 01:07 PM
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#60
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Santa Cruz, California
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19
Posts: 755
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Better than taking a 5th wheel and trying to turn it into a trailer. Can you believe this thing? And yes, it left the service station and got on Hwy I-40 in Arkansas!
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I hope they weren't traveling very far, they're almost dragging the asphalt. I'm pretty sure that would get you pulled over in California.
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2019 Tundra CrewMax Limited TRD 4WD
2014 Escape 19
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